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Post by shred on Aug 28, 2013 8:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by bob0627 on Aug 28, 2013 9:50:53 GMT -5
Yep a lot of people knew WTC7 was going to collapse. Some even reported its collapse well before it actually collapsed. You think Silverstein told them what's up?
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Post by shred on Aug 28, 2013 10:18:57 GMT -5
Firefighters had informed journalists that WTC7 was on fire, was leaning was bulging and was expected to collapse. Firefighters don't need permission of the owner to pull their teams out when there's insufficient water to fight a blaze and extensive structural damage inside. The Fire Commander made a courtesy call, not a call for permission from Silverstein.
Fire Chief Nigro is the man who gave the order to pull out the firefighters. He was not part of some conspiracy.
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Post by shred on Aug 28, 2013 11:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Sept 7, 2013 5:14:18 GMT -5
Fire Chief Joseph Pfeifer: ("WTC: This Is Their Story," Firehouse, 4/2002)
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 7, 2013 8:50:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the foreknowledge quotes.
BTW, you posted "Proper eyewitness testimonies". What makes these "proper" and others "improper"?
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Post by shred on Sept 11, 2013 3:20:15 GMT -5
Because these are genuine eyewitnesses and not your ae9/11 conspiracy theorist hoaxers for profit.
The collapses of the towers were not brought about by demolitions charges Bob. The collapses were the result of structural damage and fire.
RIP the victims of Islamic terrorism.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 11, 2013 7:59:30 GMT -5
"these are genuine eyewitnesses and not your ae9/11 conspiracy theorist hoaxers for profit."
So you're saying only eyewitnesses you pick and choose are "proper" but any eyewitnesses that you haven't personally picked are "ae9/11 conspiracy theorist hoaxers for profit" despite that AE911 was founded many years after these eyewitnesses' that you didn't personally pick and choose, had their testimonies videotaped? What about the eyewitnesses you picked and chose that are the very same ones as those depicted in the many documentaries I posted? Are they only "proper" when you post them and "ae9/11 conspiracy theorist hoaxers for profit" when I post them?
What kind of audience are you trying to attract? Surely you don't expect intelligent and mature individuals to swallow this childish garbage.
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Post by shred on Sept 13, 2013 4:49:13 GMT -5
Why don't you accept the eyewitness testimonies of people who don't buy into silly controlled demolition conspiracy theories Bob ?
What are you afraid of ?
That evidence shows you've been wasting years of your life on a wild goose chase and the only people offering you hope that you haven't, are CONMEN.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 13, 2013 7:41:11 GMT -5
Why don't you accept the eyewitness testimonies of people who don't buy into silly controlled demolition conspiracy theories Bob ? What are you afraid of ? That evidence shows you've been wasting years of your life on a wild goose chase and the only people offering you hope that you haven't, are CONMEN. I'm so incredibly ignorant and gullible. I actually believe eyewitness testimony that contradicts government's impossible conspiracy theories, that the videos clearly show an unnatural collapse of 3 buildings, that the laws of physics did not change on 9/11, that the findings of over 2,000 experts along with those PROVES that the government's conspiracy theories are impossible and that government and its complicit media LIED and never investigated 9/11. I'll probably go to hell for that.
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Post by shred on Sept 13, 2013 13:24:52 GMT -5
You believe doctored videos misquotes and lies. Your 'truth' movement LIED and is still lying. Conspiracy theories are a money making industry.
Videos clearly show that the twin towers collapsed due to structural damage and fire. Firefighters testimonies photographic evidence and video evidence proves that WTC7 collapsed due to structural damage and fire. Your conspiracy theories are a wild goose chase, they're a pathetic distraction from the real issues, i.e. why Al Qaeda terrorists attacked your country in the first place, how your country (and NATO) reacted to the terrorist attacks and how to prevent another atrocity.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 13, 2013 14:23:26 GMT -5
You believe doctored videos misquotes and lies. Your 'truth' movement LIED and is still lying. Conspiracy theories are a money making industry. Videos clearly show that the twin towers collapsed due to structural damage and fire. Firefighters testimonies photographic evidence and video evidence proves that WTC7 collapsed due to structural damage and fire. Your conspiracy theories are a wild goose chase, they're a pathetic distraction from the real issues, i.e. why Al Qaeda terrorists attacked your country in the first place, how your country (and NATO) reacted to the terrorist attacks and how to prevent another atrocity. You can spew any kind of nonsense that you think means something to you. The problem is, none of it means anything to me so you're wasting your time. If you had any reasonable amount of intelligence, you would have figured that out long, long ago. But if it makes you feel better to put your garbage into a post, I have no problem with your issues, they're your problem, not mine.
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Post by shred on Sept 14, 2013 2:53:10 GMT -5
NO. You can spew any kind of nonesense about your controlled demolition theories, but you have NO EVIDENCE, whereas I have a lot of evidence that the towers weren't demolished by controlled demolitions.
You cannot make your theories true. It WAS a terrorist attack and those terrorists who attacked your nation are dead.
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Post by shred on Oct 1, 2013 4:49:41 GMT -5
Another firefighter testimony about WTC7:
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 1, 2013 8:02:25 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Oct 2, 2013 1:50:33 GMT -5
Er, the firefighters were there, there's over 12,000 testimonies that disprove the controlled demolitions conspiracy theories.
Petrol tanks in cars will explode, and on that day many did. Doesn't mean the towers were rigged with pre planted explosives. The amount of people working in those towers daily whose jobs would be disrupted means the structures cannot have been rigged, and explosives anywhere else wouldn't be close enough to apply direct pressure to blast through and cause collapse. No audio of explosives is present in any collapse footage. You're childishly clutching at straws and throwing tantrums Bob because you don't want to accept that it was a terrorist attack.
No burning building has ever been brought down by explosives, there wasn't time to rig it with explosives, the fire was too intense for explosives as nearly every floor was burning and belching smoke.
And that Bob shoots down your lies completely.
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 2, 2013 7:08:54 GMT -5
"And that Bob shoots down your lies completely."
Let's see, I posted links to a ton of eyewitness testimony that you would never address. So what lies are you talking about? If you're saying all those eyewitnesses lied, that's another story. Of course you have nothing to base that on except your usual biased opinion. Or maybe you want to say I lied and these are not really eyewitness testimonies. But here again, you have nothing to base that on either. Either way, you haven't made any case that I lied about anything. And either way, who cares what you think.
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Post by shred on Oct 3, 2013 10:52:15 GMT -5
No, to date you've posted a tonne of fabrications lies and misquotes like a stuck record every day every week every month since this forum began and you still won't accept you've got anything wrong even though the fire fighters contradict you, even though the eyewitnesses contradict you and experts including Leslie Robertson contradict you, even though family members including Lyz Glick contradict you. You're trapped by your own prejudices, you cannot accept that it was a terrorist attack and that the twin towers collapsed because of the structural damage and fire caused by the planes that hit them.
WTC7 was burning, it wasn't blown up, it was hit by WTC1 and caught fire, it fell because it lost structural integrity, the structure supporting the penthouses failed, they fell into the building taking out the interior, the exterior then had to bear the full weight of the roof line and walls and couldn't stand, so it gave way to load.
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 3, 2013 13:07:52 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Oct 3, 2013 19:01:11 GMT -5
No, that's conspiracy theory bulls**t Bob.
You lied about Norman Mineta, you lied about the Pentagon holes, you lied about thermitic material, you lied about the collapse of WTC7 and said there were explosions and flashes going off (because you'd believed a doctored video of the collapse). You may be a proxy for someone else's lies but you're still parroting lies, and all too frequently you're spamming this board and using your moderator status to get away with it.
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 3, 2013 20:24:21 GMT -5
"that's conspiracy theory bulls**t Bob."
That's correct, the New Pearl Harbor video, the NIST video and the 9/11 Commission video all show the official conspiracy theory bulls**t and those who support it who like to call themselves "debunkers". It also shows how and why it's just official conspiracy theory bulls**t and why therefore, we need a REAL investigation. You don't want one? Who cares? You mean nothing in the scheme of things other than being an official 9/11 story parrot. It's easy to bend over and accept whatever you're fed, any sniveling brainless coward can do that. It takes a brain and a pair of balls to stand up and challenge authority.
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Post by shred on Oct 4, 2013 3:12:38 GMT -5
No Bob, your posts are conspiracy theory bulls**t.
You can lie about thermite until the cows come home but you're wasting your breath, the world knows what happened, Islamic terrorists did murdered nearly 3000 people.
You can pretend the sky is green, or that pigs can fly, but you can't make your lies real no matter how many times you post a crappy conspiracy theory, quote mined or doctored video.
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 4, 2013 7:28:11 GMT -5
"You can lie about thermite until the cows come home"
Other than what I learned from EXPERTS, I know zero about thermite so it's impossible for me to lie about it. You make no sense.
The rest of your post is as idiotic as most of your posts are. I don't doctor eyewitness testimony and actual event videos. I don't doctor videos that show "debunkers" supporting the official story. And unlike you, I'm not a brainless coward who swallows everything I'm fed by government and its puppet media and questions NOTHING. I question EVERYTHING because there's not one thing I can trust this government with. I don't start threads proclaiming government (NIST) = truth, you did that coward.
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Post by shred on Oct 4, 2013 10:22:59 GMT -5
Experts who are eminently qualified in irrelevant unrelated fields aren't experts Bob, and what you learned from them is an idiotic lie.
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 4, 2013 10:58:55 GMT -5
And what I learned from you is that you're a sniveling bend over spineless coward who questions NOTHING, parrots EVERYTHING fed to him from "authority" and those who support it, a massive pathological liar and a complete fake.
I'll take what I feel is credible expert opinion any time and reject government, its hired agencies, paid disinformation agents and bend over stooges every time.
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Post by shred on Oct 4, 2013 14:19:07 GMT -5
I question your lies. You question nothing. You parrot LIES, fabrications, misquotes, doctored and misrepresented details to paint a false picture of an inside job.
Learn something.
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 4, 2013 21:33:36 GMT -5
"I question your lies. You question nothing. You parrot LIES, fabrications, misquotes, doctored and misrepresented details to paint a false picture of an inside job."
Almost every word in the above statement is a lie. But knock yourself out coward and "question my lies". That's much more important to you than questioning even one thing you've been fed by an entity that lies all the time.
"Learn something."
I do every single day. The sound quality in the video you posted is awful. I'm not going to listen to something that's over 1.5 hours long which such poor audio quality unless it's meaningful. Why don't you provide a summary so I can determine whether it has some educational value or not?
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