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Post by shred on Jul 12, 2013 8:38:54 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Jul 12, 2013 14:48:25 GMT -5
Er once again Bob, former transport manager Mineta spoke of getting the airliners down not standing down air defences. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42754-2002Jan26_3.htmlNorman Mineta said there was no stand down order and there was a shoot down order, and that is what Cheney was referring to when asked "do the orders still stand ?" "of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?" MEANING SHOOT IT DOWN: In this video Mineta refers to the shoot down order in context. It wasn't a stand down order at all Bob, but as usual you cannot help yourself from lying about 9/11. The testimonies of USAF pilots in post one also proves that fighters were in the air and looking to shoot down the remaining hijacked airliners after the twin towers had been hit. It's high time you took the 'red pill' and woke up from this matrix of lies you live in old chum.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 12, 2013 18:44:37 GMT -5
Unlike you who constantly tries to support government 9/11 lies with your own set of lies, I don't need to lie about what happened on 9/11, the FACTS and HISTORY speaks for itself.
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Post by shred on Jul 13, 2013 2:50:19 GMT -5
You're the one who lies and feels he needs to tell lies Bob, I still haven't forgotten the fake WTC7 vid you posted, or your laughable Pentagon lies, or your freefall lie, your lies about how many buildings fell down, your lies about how the twin towers fell, or your lies about the Bazant paper.
Fighter pilots who were up say there wasn't any stand down order and Norman Mineta was referring to a shoot down order when he quoted Cheney in saying "of course the order still stands" in his televised testimony to the 9/11 commission.
So game set and match, you have NO EVIDENCE to back up your claims at all. Wake up and smell the coffee, the real truth is that 19 Islamic terrorists who hated your country, hijacked four airliners and deliberately crashed them, all the damage that day was a direct result of their actions.
Even if you'd had 1000 fully armed fighters airborne covering the NEADS area, Flight 11 would have still struck WTC1 and destroyed it. Protocol before the attacks was to shadow a hijacked plane, monitor it and report on it's course and heading. Pilot Dan Nash says he would have had to watch helplessly as Flight 11 flew straight into the North Tower.
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Post by shred on Jul 14, 2013 4:23:37 GMT -5
Bob, don't you have anything to say about Pilot Dan Nash's testimony? Tim Duffy's testimony? Heather Penney's testimony ? They were fighter pilots who were in the air looking for those hijacked airliners. They were definitely not stood down.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 14, 2013 9:20:26 GMT -5
"don't you have anything to say about Pilot Dan Nash's testimony? Tim Duffy's testimony? Heather Penney's testimony ?"
Sure, all these people's testimony is crucial to a REAL 9/11 forensic criminal investigation, lamestream opinion articles, all of which are ALWAYS written in support of the official conspiracy theory and rarely if ever question it, are not.
The STAND DOWN is HISTORY and speaks for itself. The first jet was scrambled at the moment the first plane hit the tower, more than 30 minutes after it was known to be hijacked. According to Nash's account, it was the FAA that alerted of a hijacking, not NORAD. Where was NORAD, asleep, standing down? Where was Rumsfeld? Conveniently MIA. Why was he put in charge of NORAD prior to 9/11? You don't ask any of those questions? You never will because you never ask any questions about the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. All you ever do is research in detail everything and anything that you believe supports it, whether it has any merit or not. That makes you a fake just like all the anonymous "debunking" sites.
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Post by shred on Jul 15, 2013 3:21:32 GMT -5
"don't you have anything to say about Pilot Dan Nash's testimony? Tim Duffy's testimony? Heather Penney's testimony ?"Sure, all these people's testimony is crucial to a REAL 9/11 forensic criminal investigation, lamestream opinion articles, all of which are ALWAYS written in support of the official conspiracy theory and rarely if ever question it, are not. Mineta's testimony says there was a shoot down order. There have been real investigations into 9/11 already. 19 Jihadists did it. If a new investigation took place it would find the same as any previous investigation and all that would happen is you'd whinge and call for another and another and another. No genuine investigation will ever lie and say it was an inside job. Real investigations have already found that 19 Jihadists hijacked the planes and crashed them, and by doing so they destroyed the twin towers. I've corrected your lie here. Mineta's testimony proves that there was a shoot down order given after the twin towers were hit. The aforementioned pilots who were sent to intercept were given shoot down orders after the twin towers were hit. Mineta's testimony also shows that all non military aircraft were ordered to land by the FAA following the hijackings. Jets need a Pilot, and directions to follow in order to intercept (transponders were turned off, altitude information was not present, radar only shows course and heading. The FAA and NORAD did not have commonality of radar. They didn't have automatic shared information when it came to hijackings. Getting pilots scrambled was not an instant thing. The Clinton cuts had left very few National Air Guard fighters on standby. Prior to 9/11 FAA and NORAD did not share radar info, we've been through this, NORAD looked outwards for foreign threats with a system based upon Chain home. All previous hijackings over the USA had been ransoms. Actually he was in Washington at The Pentagon, he personally went into the fire area and tried to rescue people. Because Bush chose him. Don't you ever stop lying misquoting and misrepresenting what happened ?
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 15, 2013 7:28:04 GMT -5
"You don't ask any of those questions? You never will because you never ask any questions about the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. All you ever do is research in detail everything and anything that you believe supports it, whether it has any merit or not. That makes you a fake just like all the anonymous "debunking" sites."
You prove my point every single time.
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Post by shred on Jul 15, 2013 9:08:28 GMT -5
Your questions are based upon debunked LIES. You haven't got a clue let alone a point.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 15, 2013 10:09:40 GMT -5
Your questions are based upon debunked LIES. You haven't got a clue let alone a point. Your nonsense knows no bounds fake one, my questions are questions that anyone with a brain should be asking. And if I "haven't got a clue" according to your bulls**t response, then I would be and should be asking a ton of questions, don't you think or do you? aibafs.com/thread/6250/9-11-steering-committee
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Post by shred on Jul 16, 2013 5:36:17 GMT -5
Stop lying Bob, your questions are bulls**t based on lies. You lie and say there was a stand down, I give facts and show there wasn't.
The only crime your ex government is guilty of regarding 9/11 is incompetence.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 16, 2013 8:28:30 GMT -5
Stop lying Bob, your questions are bulls**t based on lies. You lie and say there was a stand down, I give facts and show there wasn't. The only crime your ex government is guilty of regarding 9/11 is incompetence. So are you saying then that I should never ask any questions and that no one should ever ask any questions unless the questions are about the details of the official conspiracy theory? Any other question is "bulls**t" and should never be asked?
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Post by shred on Jul 17, 2013 3:56:57 GMT -5
I am saying you should get your facts right instead of lying.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 17, 2013 7:53:12 GMT -5
I am saying you should get your facts right instead of lying. My facts are quite straight, facts always are. I was talking about asking questions though, was what I said too difficult for you to understand? They do speak English where you are, right? It's ok, it's not too important and neither are you.
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Post by shred on Jul 17, 2013 8:16:42 GMT -5
Your 'facts' are blatant lies Bob. I don't think you even know the meaning of the word "fact". Yer peddlin bulls**te old lad.
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