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Post by shred on Jul 8, 2013 7:47:01 GMT -5
IF WTC7 was a command centre for the attack and destruction of evidence was needed, document shredders exist that would utterly destroy evidence and make it into confetti, hard disk wipe programmes exist that take hard drives and rewrite them with zeroes so many times that no evidence can forensically be retrieved at all.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 8, 2013 8:01:59 GMT -5
That's what a REAL INVESTIGATION is for, to try to find the perpetrators and the motive. One place an investigator should always look is FOLLOW THE MONEY (i.e. who profits).
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Post by shred on Jul 8, 2013 12:50:11 GMT -5
Real investigations have taken place.
And if 9/11 had been as you allege it to be 'an inside job', why not have a fifth plane hit WTC7?
Nobody profited btw, Silverstein has had to find the money to pay for reconstructing the site (which is why rebuilding has taken so long).
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 8, 2013 15:20:49 GMT -5
Ah, now you go silent eh Bob ? There's nothing to add to this that I haven't already addressed multiple times. Your question is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with what actually happened and is therefore not worthy of a speculatory response. When I have something worthwhile to post, you can bet I'll post it.
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Post by shred on Jul 8, 2013 15:23:03 GMT -5
It's absolutely relevant Bob, think about it, you're saying that it was an inside job and WTC7 was rigged.
It wasn't an inside job and WTC7 wasn't rigged. Why would they ? It's absurd even to suggest. Stop wasting your time on this controlled demolition hoax and get a life mate. You really could put your mind to better things.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 8, 2013 15:45:02 GMT -5
"It's absolutely relevant Bob"
No it's relevant to Shred.
"Stop wasting your time"
You would love that. It's you who's wasting your time trying to convince me of your lies. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, it's not my job. I will expose your lies because you're a fake and you want to portray 9/11 exactly the way government and its puppet media fed it to the world and that's a bunch of lies too.
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Post by shred on Jul 8, 2013 17:37:46 GMT -5
You're the one wasting your life fella, I'm just trying to help you free your mind from the poisonous 9/11 conspiracy theories you've distracted yourself with.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 8, 2013 17:48:13 GMT -5
You're the one wasting your life fella, I'm just trying to help you free your mind from the poisonous 9/11 conspiracy theories you've distracted yourself with. And how is that going for you?
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Post by shred on Jul 8, 2013 17:49:54 GMT -5
Sadly the important question is whether you have a mind to save?
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 8, 2013 20:05:08 GMT -5
Sadly the important question is whether you have a mind to save? So it's not working for you then. Why is that DEAR?
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Post by shred on Jul 9, 2013 2:47:15 GMT -5
Enough of your silliness. Back to the topic at hand, why would Americans plot to demolish WTC7 ? Why would Americans plot to attack America's economic heart, let alone the American Government ? Why would leaseholder Larry Silverstein be involved in a plot that he wouldn't (and has not gained any) profit from and would leave him liable to pay for reconstruction of the site, not to mention $10m per month site rent on a site that would be vacant for years?
Don't you see how daft your conspiracy theories are ?
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 9, 2013 7:31:53 GMT -5
"Back to the topic at hand, why would Americans plot to demolish WTC7 ? Why would Americans plot to attack America's economic heart, let alone the American Government ?"
What Americans? If any Americans were involved in 9/11, they're murderous traitors, not Americans. There were in fact traitors who stood down on 9/11. The same ones who later committed massive war crimes under pretext of 9/11. They helped make $trillions in profit for the bankster/military/intelligence/surveillance industrial complex. Any fool should be able to see the connections.
"Why would leaseholder Larry Silverstein be involved in a plot that he wouldn't (and has not gained any) profit from and would leave him liable to pay for reconstruction of the site, not to mention $10m per month site rent on a site that would be vacant for years?"
Silverstein made a fortune from 9/11 despite your nonsensical claim. As to whether he was involved or not, that's a matter for a REAL criminal investigation. No one ever conducted an investigation of Silverstein, or anyone else for that matter. Any fool should be able to figure out why.
"Don't you see how daft your conspiracy theories are ?"
I don't have any "daft conspiracy theories", you're the one trying to support a daft conspiracy theory, usually with lies and made up s**t.
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Post by shred on Jul 9, 2013 17:52:14 GMT -5
There was no stand down, this has been addressed elsewhere F16's were airborne looking for the hijacked jets. The US economy was damaged, the New York stock exchange crashed, American Airlines and United Airlines almost went bust, overnight a global recession in the Airline industry occurred. Silverstein did not make a profit despite your lies (he's had to pay $10m a month on an empty site and find the funds to rebuild (and building new skyscrapers costs BILLIONS which is why it's taken so long to build the new WTC site).
If there were a new investigation it would find the same things every other investigation before has found. You'd call it a whitewash and call for yet another and another and another and another and another investigation at huge cost to the American taxpayer because frankly, you're what we in Yorkshire would call a Wally.
You don't know the difference between explosions and explosives. You think a sound that sounds like an explosion must be a chain of explosions. You think the only thing that could bring down a skyscraper as big as WTC's 1&2 would have to be explosives. You utterly ignore the overwhelming evidence of structural damage + fire wreaking havoc upon the Steelwork.
You're a liar and a compulsive one at that Bob. Give up your duties as moderator, you aren't up to the job Bob.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 9, 2013 19:08:53 GMT -5
Even if there is nothing to show on paper, audio or video that there was no stand down. History is irrefutable. No one, not the White House, the military, NORAD or any of the alphabet agencies did one thing to prevent or stop the 9/11 events from talking place. One would have to be a complete blithering fool to believe that there was no stand down. But there is in fact a ton of evidence that shows a DELIBERATE STAND DOWN on 9/11. All of it has previously been posted here.
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Post by richardcavessa on Jul 9, 2013 20:33:59 GMT -5
bob is rite: a ton of evidence that shows a DELIBERATE STAND DOWN on 9/11. if dick would have thought about it, he could have waited 10mins to insure no one would interfere in the second hit, then say, well i tried....
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Post by shred on Jul 10, 2013 1:27:32 GMT -5
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 10, 2013 7:48:38 GMT -5
And your opinion/theory changes the FACT that no one responsible did anything to prevent or stop the 9/11 events how?
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Post by shred on Jul 10, 2013 15:29:43 GMT -5
No one responsible could have done anything to prevent or stop the events of 9/11 once the planes had been hijacked.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 10, 2013 16:26:01 GMT -5
No one responsible could have done anything to prevent or stop the events of 9/11 once the planes had been hijacked. That's your opinion, which means zero and I wasn't just talking about "once the planes had been hijacked" which any fool knows a commercial airliner can be shot down even once it's hijacked. But for the sake of argument, are you saying they shouldn't have tried at all? Just lay down and watch it all unfold like Bush claims he did? And if that's true, why bother having a $multi-trillion intelligence/defense system at all if it can do nothing? Why waste all the taxpayer money?
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Post by shred on Jul 10, 2013 18:50:13 GMT -5
No it's historical fact. Because of the Clinton cuts the USAF National Air Guard hadn't enough fighters fueled and stood by to defend the skies, they weren't properly armed, they weren't prepared and your ignorant opinion is worthless.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 10, 2013 22:37:06 GMT -5
No it's historical fact. Because of the Clinton cuts the USAF National Air Guard hadn't enough fighters fueled and stood by to defend the skies, they weren't properly armed, they weren't prepared and your ignorant opinion is worthless. My opinion is worth the same as yours. The difference is that I'm not so incredibly gullible, ignorant and/or illogical as you are (or pretend to be) as to actually believe the US has a $multi-trillion intelligence/defense system that is so impotent and worthless that it can do NOTHING to protect the US. Like I said, if that's true then the US has no need for it and can save $trillions of money stolen from Americans.
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Post by shred on Jul 11, 2013 14:34:09 GMT -5
Your opinion is uninformed uneducated and worthless.
People who plot face to face voice to voice are very hard to stop.
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