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Post by bob0627 on Apr 17, 2013 23:42:29 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Apr 23, 2013 18:58:06 GMT -5
Easy place to park a truck Real footage of an IRA truck bomb (Arndale Centre Manchester 1996, the entire area and 70,000 shoppers were evacuated beforehand after a coded warning). Do you doubt that a truck bomb parked right next to a load bearing column could have taken one or two of the columns out at the Alfred P Murrah building ? What do you think would happen to the load a column supported if the column were destroyed ?
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Post by bob0627 on Apr 23, 2013 20:16:12 GMT -5
I posted that video because all we usually get from government are lies and there's always an alternate explanation. You seem to swallow everything that comes from authority as truth.
"A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein
"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, Rather than truth as the authority." - Gerald Massey
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Post by shred on Apr 24, 2013 3:08:32 GMT -5
I am not American I do not speak for your government. I am a free thinking independent citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Speaking structurally, (irrespective of whether one believes McVeigh did it or whether one believes he was innocent), all it required to do this: was to take out a support or two at the front and gravity would do the rest. I am aware of the many conspiracy theories regarding the A.P.M. federal building and many assume that a truck bomb would not be powerful enough to do so much damage to the building. The truck bomb only damaged columns. Gravity did the rest.
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Post by bob0627 on Apr 24, 2013 7:21:31 GMT -5
"I am a free thinking independent citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain."
You may be a "citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain" if you say so, but based on your posts you're far from a free thinker. Parroting every official conspiracy theory without ever questioning any of it makes you a sponge, not a free thinker.
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Post by shred on Apr 24, 2013 9:08:48 GMT -5
Oh because I've investigated and found that the facts fit the 'official' version of events, somehow I'm a parrot am I ?
Get real. I've given scientific evidence to back up my arguments, still waiting for your evidence. Looking like something isn't enough btw. I know a Bird who looks like a Bird from a Playboy mag, doesn't mean she's posed nude for Playboy. A collapse that resembles a controlled demolition doesn't always mean a controlled demolition.
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Post by bob0627 on Apr 24, 2013 9:25:05 GMT -5
"Oh because I've investigated and found that the facts fit the 'official' version of events, somehow I'm a parrot am I ?"
No, it's because you don't question ANYTHING. That the 9/11 Commission Report is based on lies is a PUBLIC ADMISSION by those who participated in publishing the 9/11 Commission Report, yet you accept it as 100% true. That the NIST report is a THEORY and not an investigation based on accepted investigative protocol is accepted by you as fact that's 100% true. These are your own admissions. That makes you a sponge. That you denounce known and credentialed experts who question the official account and publish numerous papers on the subject, as fakes who make things up makes you a fraud.
"Get real. I've given scientific evidence to back up my arguments"
No, you've provided theories and your opinions to try to support theories.
"still waiting for your evidence."
Evidence of what? That the official 9/11 conspiracy theory is based on lies? I posted all the evidence and admissions from those who were responsible for publishing the 9/11 conspiracy theory. It wasn't for your benefit. I don't owe you anything and it's not my job or my agenda to try to convince you of anything. It seems to be part of your agenda to try to convince me that the official story is 100% true. I told you countless times I'm NOT INTERESTED.
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Post by shred on Apr 24, 2013 11:09:54 GMT -5
So you can't disprove the physics arguments I've made or the evidence I've given re: flight 77 so now you're trying to fall back to the position of 'but the 9/11 Commission Report'. I've not read that report Bob. I've seen the evidence that planes flown into skyscrapers damaged them set fire to them and brought about their collapses which in turn damaged and set fire to other buildings. I remember with horror that day at work as one of my colleagues came into the room and told us what had happened in New York. Until 9/11 I was a conspiracy theorist. Every theory your heroes have put forward regarding 9/11 has shown me what a load of utter tosh conspiracy theories can be.
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Post by bob0627 on Apr 24, 2013 12:48:33 GMT -5
"So you can't disprove the physics arguments I've made or the evidence I've given re: flight 77"
I'm not trying or intend to "prove" or "disprove" your opinions and theories.
"so now you're trying to fall back to the position of 'but the 9/11 Commission Report'."
I'm not falling back on anything, I'm just citing the FACTS regarding the 9/11 Commission Report.
"I've not read that report Bob."
That's quite a whopper coming from someone who parrots and claims to agree with 100% of the report.
"I've seen the evidence that planes flown into skyscrapers damaged them set fire to them and brought about their collapses which in turn damaged and set fire to other buildings. I remember with horror that day at work as one of my colleagues came into the room and told us what had happened in New York. Until 9/11 I was a conspiracy theorist. Every theory your heroes have put forward regarding 9/11 has shown me what a load of utter tosh conspiracy theories can be."
Ask me if I care about your opinions and theories. Try repeating them another 100 times, maybe that will work after 101 times.
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Post by shred on Apr 24, 2013 19:45:09 GMT -5
I agree with the NIST reports. Get with it Bob. Good night.
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Post by bob0627 on Apr 24, 2013 20:28:28 GMT -5
I agree with the NIST reports. Get with it Bob. Good night. Did I say otherwise? Sleep tight son, all's well with your world.
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Post by shred on Apr 25, 2013 2:41:13 GMT -5
Cheers, all's great here. Last night I'd been to the pub, had warm beer.
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