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Post by thelion on Sept 4, 2014 14:52:37 GMT -5
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Post by illeatyourdates02 on Sept 4, 2014 15:04:44 GMT -5
Were they both federal charges or local state charges?? If they were state, they may have different penalties.
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Post by illeatyourdates02 on Sept 4, 2014 15:06:35 GMT -5
Nevermind, I see it's federal. But did he and blago do the same thing?? I think blago was trying to sell a senate seat.
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Post by z on Sept 4, 2014 15:33:47 GMT -5
bye bye bob. you and your wife will enjoy a country club of a prison, rather than what general public would "enjoy".
oh and bob? you and your wife can foguckyourselves for betraying the public's trust.
scum.
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Post by chuckygotlucky on Sept 4, 2014 15:39:50 GMT -5
Blago got screwed. He didn't deserve all that jail time.
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Post by maxwell on Sept 4, 2014 15:52:24 GMT -5
I followed the story loosely & I think McDonnell was willing to sell out his wife. So much for "family values".
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Post by thelion on Sept 4, 2014 18:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by chuckygotlucky on Sept 4, 2014 18:36:28 GMT -5
He was a scape goat. Some Murderers don't serve 14 years.
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Post by thelion on Sept 4, 2014 18:44:31 GMT -5
He was a scape goat. Some Murderers don't serve 14 years. He shoulda gotten 14 years for the hair alone.
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Post by chuckygotlucky on Sept 4, 2014 18:58:22 GMT -5
He was a scape goat. Some Murderers don't serve 14 years. He shoulda gotten 14 years for the hair alone. That's just plain cruel. lol
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Post by peteetongman on Sept 5, 2014 7:31:24 GMT -5
wow 'watewrcolor' and 'dinner'
scandalous I tell you, scandalous
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Post by brookboy123 on Sept 5, 2014 7:36:19 GMT -5
I find GREAT joy in Bobby's predicament. Bravo!
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Post by peteetongman on Sept 5, 2014 7:36:38 GMT -5
I followed the story loosely & I think McDonnell was willing to sell out his wife. So much for "family values". If you have any evidence of this it would sure bolster the tenuous grasp on credibility that you now have
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Post by maxwell on Sept 5, 2014 10:01:40 GMT -5
I followed the story loosely & I think McDonnell was willing to sell out his wife. So much for "family values". If you have any evidence of this it would sure bolster the tenuous grasp on credibility that you now have Virginia ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell details marital woes at corruption trial Trial of former Gov. Bob McDonnell Journalists surround former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, obscured, after a day in court in Richmond, Va., where he and his wife, Maureen, are on trial. (Bob Brown / Associated Press) By Timothy M. Phelps contact the reporter In what some call the 'crazy-wife defense,' fallen GOP star McDonnell testifies for hours on couple's problems Maureen McDonnell doesn't interact with husband and former governor during their joint corruption trial Former Gov. McDonnell says his wife arranged most loans and gifts from businessman Jonnie Williams The troubled marriage of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, has become the centerpiece of the couple's corruption trial in federal court here. But it's not prosecutors who are exposing the embarrassing and highly personal details. It's Bob McDonnell. In defending against federal charges that he and his wife conspired to take up to $177,000 in gifts and loans from a millionaire in exchange for political favors, McDonnell took the stand last week, insisting that his marriage is in such bad shape that he and his wife are hardly speaking, much less capable of conspiring in a plot to extort money. Bob McDonnell Ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife are accused of conspiring to do political favors for a millionaire in exchange for gifts and loans. (Bob Brown / Richmond Times-Dispatch) Once considered a rising Republican star and possible vice presidential candidate, McDonnell testified repeatedly — even reciting from private emails he sent his wife — that it was clear who was to blame for both the marital problems and the questionable dealings: Maureen McDonnell. In what some pundits are calling the "crazy-wife defense," McDonnell, a former courtroom lawyer and longtime politician who is used to being onstage, told the court it was difficult to discuss his marital problems in public. Yet he did so in clinical detail for hours and hours, insisting he was a man chiefly concerned with his wife's mental health and his children's welfare.
Much of his testimony seemed like a soap opera storyline. He painted a picture of his wife as an unsophisticated woman who raised the children and sold vitamins from a home-based business, but started having screaming fits at him and the governor's mansion staff after being thrust into the responsibility of being the state's first lady. Over three days of testimony, McDonnell calmly and without showing emotion described how his marriage slowly deteriorated as he rose from a state delegate to attorney general to governor. After a particularly difficult Labor Day weekend in 2011, McDonnell sent a message to his wife from his BlackBerry: "I am completely at a loss as to how to handle the fiery anger and hate from you that has become more and more frequent. You told me again yesterday that you would wreck my things and how bad I am. It hurt me to my core." He and his wife did not interact in the courtroom, even when seated in close proximity. During most of his testimony, she looked straight past him, at times gripping a large ceramic cross in the palm of her hand. McDonnell said he had moved in with his parish priest about a week before the trial because he "did not have the emotional ability to go home and revisit things every night with Maureen." McDonnell testified that at first he liked entrepreneur Jonnie R. Williams, a local purveyor of supposed miracle cures for everything from wrinkles to cancer. Williams showered the couple with attention, gifts and financial support. In return, Williams says, the couple agreed to promote his business. Once at odds with federal regulators over claims that his tobacco-extract product could treat Alzheimer's disease and multiple sclerosis, Williams is now the government's star witness. The McDonnells were charged in a 14-count indictment with promoting Williams' products in return for lavish gifts for them and their children, including $15,000 for their daughter's wedding expenses, golf clubs for their sons, $19,000 in designer clothes for Maureen, numerous vacations, $120,000 in low-interest loans, and a $6,500 Rolex watch inscribed "71st Governor of Virginia." McDonnell said he saw Williams' growing closeness with his wife as a benefit, not a threat, as it seemed to make her happy and provide her with emotional support he admitted he was not capable of providing her. He said he did not think Williams and his wife had a physical relationship, but rather "an emotional attachment." The challenge for the prosecution will be demonstrating a quid pro quo between Williams' gifts and McDonnell's support, which is essential to proving a political corruption charge. Prosecutors allege the financially strapped McDonnells tried their best to help Williams, hosting a lunch at the mansion to help launch his new product, Anatabloc, and introducing the businessman to state health officials. Maureen McDonnell spoke at several media events promoting Anatabloc, and the governor sent a few emails prodding state educators to talk to Williams. The former governor testified he was taking three to five of Williams' pills a day. McDonnell testified that most of the loans and gifts were arranged by his wife, though he admitted he personally pushed Williams hard for a $50,000 loan to cover expenses at two beach rental properties. He also gratefully accepted the use of Williams' private airplane for campaign and personal travel, numerous dinners, and a round of golf for him and his family at a ritzy country club. Shortly after a $50,000 loan to his wife and a $15,000 gift for the wedding, McDonnell sent Williams an email saying, "Thanks for all your help with my family." But McDonnell said Williams' testimony that the governor was personally involved in arranging the loan to his wife and many other transactions was false. It remains to be seen whether the jury of five women and seven men will sympathize with McDonnell's marital plight or be turned off by his legal strategy of blaming his wife. Government attorneys will get their chance to cross-examine McDonnell starting this week. Maureen McDonnell is not expected to take the stand.
But McDonnell himself seemed pleased after the direct testimony about his marriage was over Thursday. "Did I do OK?" he asked two of his sisters and other family members seated in the first row. "Did I cover myself OK? www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-mcdonnell-trial-20140824-story.htmlI think that will suffice. However, even after he ws found guilty, by you asking me to provide proof & your snide comment plus numarymag "liking" your request just shows that despite their corruption & "family values" you & her are still defensive of all things Republican. LOLOLOLOLOL.
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Post by numarymag on Sept 5, 2014 10:09:13 GMT -5
If you have any evidence of this it would sure bolster the tenuous grasp on credibility that you now have Virginia ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell details marital woes at corruption trial Trial of former Gov. Bob McDonnell Journalists surround former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, obscured, after a day in court in Richmond, Va., where he and his wife, Maureen, are on trial. (Bob Brown / Associated Press) By Timothy M. Phelps contact the reporter In what some call the 'crazy-wife defense,' fallen GOP star McDonnell testifies for hours on couple's problems Maureen McDonnell doesn't interact with husband and former governor during their joint corruption trial Former Gov. McDonnell says his wife arranged most loans and gifts from businessman Jonnie Williams The troubled marriage of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, has become the centerpiece of the couple's corruption trial in federal court here. But it's not prosecutors who are exposing the embarrassing and highly personal details. It's Bob McDonnell. In defending against federal charges that he and his wife conspired to take up to $177,000 in gifts and loans from a millionaire in exchange for political favors, McDonnell took the stand last week, insisting that his marriage is in such bad shape that he and his wife are hardly speaking, much less capable of conspiring in a plot to extort money. Bob McDonnell Ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife are accused of conspiring to do political favors for a millionaire in exchange for gifts and loans. (Bob Brown / Richmond Times-Dispatch) Once considered a rising Republican star and possible vice presidential candidate, McDonnell testified repeatedly — even reciting from private emails he sent his wife — that it was clear who was to blame for both the marital problems and the questionable dealings: Maureen McDonnell. In what some pundits are calling the "crazy-wife defense," McDonnell, a former courtroom lawyer and longtime politician who is used to being onstage, told the court it was difficult to discuss his marital problems in public. Yet he did so in clinical detail for hours and hours, insisting he was a man chiefly concerned with his wife's mental health and his children's welfare.
Much of his testimony seemed like a soap opera storyline. He painted a picture of his wife as an unsophisticated woman who raised the children and sold vitamins from a home-based business, but started having screaming fits at him and the governor's mansion staff after being thrust into the responsibility of being the state's first lady. Over three days of testimony, McDonnell calmly and without showing emotion described how his marriage slowly deteriorated as he rose from a state delegate to attorney general to governor. After a particularly difficult Labor Day weekend in 2011, McDonnell sent a message to his wife from his BlackBerry: "I am completely at a loss as to how to handle the fiery anger and hate from you that has become more and more frequent. You told me again yesterday that you would wreck my things and how bad I am. It hurt me to my core." He and his wife did not interact in the courtroom, even when seated in close proximity. During most of his testimony, she looked straight past him, at times gripping a large ceramic cross in the palm of her hand. McDonnell said he had moved in with his parish priest about a week before the trial because he "did not have the emotional ability to go home and revisit things every night with Maureen." McDonnell testified that at first he liked entrepreneur Jonnie R. Williams, a local purveyor of supposed miracle cures for everything from wrinkles to cancer. Williams showered the couple with attention, gifts and financial support. In return, Williams says, the couple agreed to promote his business. Once at odds with federal regulators over claims that his tobacco-extract product could treat Alzheimer's disease and multiple sclerosis, Williams is now the government's star witness. The McDonnells were charged in a 14-count indictment with promoting Williams' products in return for lavish gifts for them and their children, including $15,000 for their daughter's wedding expenses, golf clubs for their sons, $19,000 in designer clothes for Maureen, numerous vacations, $120,000 in low-interest loans, and a $6,500 Rolex watch inscribed "71st Governor of Virginia." McDonnell said he saw Williams' growing closeness with his wife as a benefit, not a threat, as it seemed to make her happy and provide her with emotional support he admitted he was not capable of providing her. He said he did not think Williams and his wife had a physical relationship, but rather "an emotional attachment." The challenge for the prosecution will be demonstrating a quid pro quo between Williams' gifts and McDonnell's support, which is essential to proving a political corruption charge. Prosecutors allege the financially strapped McDonnells tried their best to help Williams, hosting a lunch at the mansion to help launch his new product, Anatabloc, and introducing the businessman to state health officials. Maureen McDonnell spoke at several media events promoting Anatabloc, and the governor sent a few emails prodding state educators to talk to Williams. The former governor testified he was taking three to five of Williams' pills a day. McDonnell testified that most of the loans and gifts were arranged by his wife, though he admitted he personally pushed Williams hard for a $50,000 loan to cover expenses at two beach rental properties. He also gratefully accepted the use of Williams' private airplane for campaign and personal travel, numerous dinners, and a round of golf for him and his family at a ritzy country club. Shortly after a $50,000 loan to his wife and a $15,000 gift for the wedding, McDonnell sent Williams an email saying, "Thanks for all your help with my family." But McDonnell said Williams' testimony that the governor was personally involved in arranging the loan to his wife and many other transactions was false. It remains to be seen whether the jury of five women and seven men will sympathize with McDonnell's marital plight or be turned off by his legal strategy of blaming his wife. Government attorneys will get their chance to cross-examine McDonnell starting this week. Maureen McDonnell is not expected to take the stand.
But McDonnell himself seemed pleased after the direct testimony about his marriage was over Thursday. "Did I do OK?" he asked two of his sisters and other family members seated in the first row. "Did I cover myself OK? www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-mcdonnell-trial-20140824-story.htmlI think that will suffice. However, even after he ws found guilty, by you asking me to provide proof & your snide comment plus numarymag "liking" your request just shows that despite their corruption & "family values" you & her are still defensive of all things Republican. LOLOLOLOLOL. So in other words you have no proof so you resort to personal attack instead. Are you not one of those that is always whining about the "lack of discussion" on this board and too many personal attacks? Guess your belief is that if you are saying it, it isn't a fracture of the rules.
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Post by maxwell on Sept 5, 2014 10:21:37 GMT -5
Virginia ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell details marital woes at corruption trial Trial of former Gov. Bob McDonnell Journalists surround former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, obscured, after a day in court in Richmond, Va., where he and his wife, Maureen, are on trial. (Bob Brown / Associated Press) By Timothy M. Phelps contact the reporter In what some call the 'crazy-wife defense,' fallen GOP star McDonnell testifies for hours on couple's problems Maureen McDonnell doesn't interact with husband and former governor during their joint corruption trial Former Gov. McDonnell says his wife arranged most loans and gifts from businessman Jonnie Williams The troubled marriage of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, has become the centerpiece of the couple's corruption trial in federal court here. But it's not prosecutors who are exposing the embarrassing and highly personal details. It's Bob McDonnell. In defending against federal charges that he and his wife conspired to take up to $177,000 in gifts and loans from a millionaire in exchange for political favors, McDonnell took the stand last week, insisting that his marriage is in such bad shape that he and his wife are hardly speaking, much less capable of conspiring in a plot to extort money. Bob McDonnell Ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife are accused of conspiring to do political favors for a millionaire in exchange for gifts and loans. (Bob Brown / Richmond Times-Dispatch) Once considered a rising Republican star and possible vice presidential candidate, McDonnell testified repeatedly — even reciting from private emails he sent his wife — that it was clear who was to blame for both the marital problems and the questionable dealings: Maureen McDonnell. In what some pundits are calling the "crazy-wife defense," McDonnell, a former courtroom lawyer and longtime politician who is used to being onstage, told the court it was difficult to discuss his marital problems in public. Yet he did so in clinical detail for hours and hours, insisting he was a man chiefly concerned with his wife's mental health and his children's welfare.
Much of his testimony seemed like a soap opera storyline. He painted a picture of his wife as an unsophisticated woman who raised the children and sold vitamins from a home-based business, but started having screaming fits at him and the governor's mansion staff after being thrust into the responsibility of being the state's first lady. Over three days of testimony, McDonnell calmly and without showing emotion described how his marriage slowly deteriorated as he rose from a state delegate to attorney general to governor. After a particularly difficult Labor Day weekend in 2011, McDonnell sent a message to his wife from his BlackBerry: "I am completely at a loss as to how to handle the fiery anger and hate from you that has become more and more frequent. You told me again yesterday that you would wreck my things and how bad I am. It hurt me to my core." He and his wife did not interact in the courtroom, even when seated in close proximity. During most of his testimony, she looked straight past him, at times gripping a large ceramic cross in the palm of her hand. McDonnell said he had moved in with his parish priest about a week before the trial because he "did not have the emotional ability to go home and revisit things every night with Maureen." McDonnell testified that at first he liked entrepreneur Jonnie R. Williams, a local purveyor of supposed miracle cures for everything from wrinkles to cancer. Williams showered the couple with attention, gifts and financial support. In return, Williams says, the couple agreed to promote his business. Once at odds with federal regulators over claims that his tobacco-extract product could treat Alzheimer's disease and multiple sclerosis, Williams is now the government's star witness. The McDonnells were charged in a 14-count indictment with promoting Williams' products in return for lavish gifts for them and their children, including $15,000 for their daughter's wedding expenses, golf clubs for their sons, $19,000 in designer clothes for Maureen, numerous vacations, $120,000 in low-interest loans, and a $6,500 Rolex watch inscribed "71st Governor of Virginia." McDonnell said he saw Williams' growing closeness with his wife as a benefit, not a threat, as it seemed to make her happy and provide her with emotional support he admitted he was not capable of providing her. He said he did not think Williams and his wife had a physical relationship, but rather "an emotional attachment." The challenge for the prosecution will be demonstrating a quid pro quo between Williams' gifts and McDonnell's support, which is essential to proving a political corruption charge. Prosecutors allege the financially strapped McDonnells tried their best to help Williams, hosting a lunch at the mansion to help launch his new product, Anatabloc, and introducing the businessman to state health officials. Maureen McDonnell spoke at several media events promoting Anatabloc, and the governor sent a few emails prodding state educators to talk to Williams. The former governor testified he was taking three to five of Williams' pills a day. McDonnell testified that most of the loans and gifts were arranged by his wife, though he admitted he personally pushed Williams hard for a $50,000 loan to cover expenses at two beach rental properties. He also gratefully accepted the use of Williams' private airplane for campaign and personal travel, numerous dinners, and a round of golf for him and his family at a ritzy country club. Shortly after a $50,000 loan to his wife and a $15,000 gift for the wedding, McDonnell sent Williams an email saying, "Thanks for all your help with my family." But McDonnell said Williams' testimony that the governor was personally involved in arranging the loan to his wife and many other transactions was false. It remains to be seen whether the jury of five women and seven men will sympathize with McDonnell's marital plight or be turned off by his legal strategy of blaming his wife. Government attorneys will get their chance to cross-examine McDonnell starting this week. Maureen McDonnell is not expected to take the stand.
But McDonnell himself seemed pleased after the direct testimony about his marriage was over Thursday. "Did I do OK?" he asked two of his sisters and other family members seated in the first row. "Did I cover myself OK? www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-mcdonnell-trial-20140824-story.htmlI think that will suffice. However, even after he ws found guilty, by you asking me to provide proof & your snide comment plus numarymag "liking" your request just shows that despite their corruption & "family values" you & her are still defensive of all things Republican. LOLOLOLOLOL. So in other words you have no proof so you resort to personal attack instead. Are you not one of those that is always whining about the "lack of discussion" on this board and too many personal attacks? Guess your belief is that if you are saying it, it isn't a fracture of the rules. I just gave you proof. Written, reported from the courtroom. A husband is not required to testify against his wife. He's allowed to take the fifth. He chose not to, & tried, BUT FAILED to assign blame ONTO HER for the "loans & gifts". Going into enough details that was an attempt to question her mental stability wasn't selling his own wife out? What personal attack did I bestow onto you or pete, numarymag? Exactly what did I say is a personal attack? LOL. You are being ridiculous. Dance for me some more.
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Post by richardcavessa on Sept 5, 2014 10:29:54 GMT -5
-Anti Gay Gov Bob McDonnell no longer living with his wife, Living With Gay exPriest rawstory reported a couple of days ago
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Post by maxwell on Sept 5, 2014 10:36:42 GMT -5
-Anti Gay Gov Bob McDonnell no longer living with his wife, Living With Gay exPriest rawstory reported a couple of days ago That is being reported in more than a few places. It just gets betterer & betterer.
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Post by peteetongman on Sept 5, 2014 10:51:38 GMT -5
If you have any evidence of this it would sure bolster the tenuous grasp on credibility that you now have Virginia ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell details marital woes at corruption trial Trial of former Gov. Bob McDonnell Journalists surround former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, obscured, after a day in court in Richmond, Va., where he and his wife, Maureen, are on trial. (Bob Brown / Associated Press) By Timothy M. Phelps contact the reporter In what some call the 'crazy-wife defense,' fallen GOP star McDonnell testifies for hours on couple's problems Maureen McDonnell doesn't interact with husband and former governor during their joint corruption trial Former Gov. McDonnell says his wife arranged most loans and gifts from businessman Jonnie Williams The troubled marriage of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, has become the centerpiece of the couple's corruption trial in federal court here. But it's not prosecutors who are exposing the embarrassing and highly personal details. It's Bob McDonnell. In defending against federal charges that he and his wife conspired to take up to $177,000 in gifts and loans from a millionaire in exchange for political favors, McDonnell took the stand last week, insisting that his marriage is in such bad shape that he and his wife are hardly speaking, much less capable of conspiring in a plot to extort money. Bob McDonnell Ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife are accused of conspiring to do political favors for a millionaire in exchange for gifts and loans. (Bob Brown / Richmond Times-Dispatch) Once considered a rising Republican star and possible vice presidential candidate, McDonnell testified repeatedly — even reciting from private emails he sent his wife — that it was clear who was to blame for both the marital problems and the questionable dealings: Maureen McDonnell. In what some pundits are calling the "crazy-wife defense," McDonnell, a former courtroom lawyer and longtime politician who is used to being onstage, told the court it was difficult to discuss his marital problems in public. Yet he did so in clinical detail for hours and hours, insisting he was a man chiefly concerned with his wife's mental health and his children's welfare.
Much of his testimony seemed like a soap opera storyline. He painted a picture of his wife as an unsophisticated woman who raised the children and sold vitamins from a home-based business, but started having screaming fits at him and the governor's mansion staff after being thrust into the responsibility of being the state's first lady. Over three days of testimony, McDonnell calmly and without showing emotion described how his marriage slowly deteriorated as he rose from a state delegate to attorney general to governor. After a particularly difficult Labor Day weekend in 2011, McDonnell sent a message to his wife from his BlackBerry: "I am completely at a loss as to how to handle the fiery anger and hate from you that has become more and more frequent. You told me again yesterday that you would wreck my things and how bad I am. It hurt me to my core." He and his wife did not interact in the courtroom, even when seated in close proximity. During most of his testimony, she looked straight past him, at times gripping a large ceramic cross in the palm of her hand. McDonnell said he had moved in with his parish priest about a week before the trial because he "did not have the emotional ability to go home and revisit things every night with Maureen." McDonnell testified that at first he liked entrepreneur Jonnie R. Williams, a local purveyor of supposed miracle cures for everything from wrinkles to cancer. Williams showered the couple with attention, gifts and financial support. In return, Williams says, the couple agreed to promote his business. Once at odds with federal regulators over claims that his tobacco-extract product could treat Alzheimer's disease and multiple sclerosis, Williams is now the government's star witness. The McDonnells were charged in a 14-count indictment with promoting Williams' products in return for lavish gifts for them and their children, including $15,000 for their daughter's wedding expenses, golf clubs for their sons, $19,000 in designer clothes for Maureen, numerous vacations, $120,000 in low-interest loans, and a $6,500 Rolex watch inscribed "71st Governor of Virginia." McDonnell said he saw Williams' growing closeness with his wife as a benefit, not a threat, as it seemed to make her happy and provide her with emotional support he admitted he was not capable of providing her. He said he did not think Williams and his wife had a physical relationship, but rather "an emotional attachment." The challenge for the prosecution will be demonstrating a quid pro quo between Williams' gifts and McDonnell's support, which is essential to proving a political corruption charge. Prosecutors allege the financially strapped McDonnells tried their best to help Williams, hosting a lunch at the mansion to help launch his new product, Anatabloc, and introducing the businessman to state health officials. Maureen McDonnell spoke at several media events promoting Anatabloc, and the governor sent a few emails prodding state educators to talk to Williams. The former governor testified he was taking three to five of Williams' pills a day. McDonnell testified that most of the loans and gifts were arranged by his wife, though he admitted he personally pushed Williams hard for a $50,000 loan to cover expenses at two beach rental properties. He also gratefully accepted the use of Williams' private airplane for campaign and personal travel, numerous dinners, and a round of golf for him and his family at a ritzy country club. Shortly after a $50,000 loan to his wife and a $15,000 gift for the wedding, McDonnell sent Williams an email saying, "Thanks for all your help with my family." But McDonnell said Williams' testimony that the governor was personally involved in arranging the loan to his wife and many other transactions was false. It remains to be seen whether the jury of five women and seven men will sympathize with McDonnell's marital plight or be turned off by his legal strategy of blaming his wife. Government attorneys will get their chance to cross-examine McDonnell starting this week. Maureen McDonnell is not expected to take the stand.
But McDonnell himself seemed pleased after the direct testimony about his marriage was over Thursday. "Did I do OK?" he asked two of his sisters and other family members seated in the first row. "Did I cover myself OK? www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-mcdonnell-trial-20140824-story.htmlI think that will suffice. However, even after he ws found guilty, by you asking me to provide proof & your snide comment plus numarymag "liking" your request just shows that despite their corruption & "family values" you & her are still defensive of all things Republican. LOLOLOLOLOL. don't be so gullible. could be a good cop/bad cop scenario. if I find any hard evidence of that I'll let you know, but right now it's as good as anything you have
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Post by maxwell on Sept 5, 2014 14:56:47 GMT -5
Virginia ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell details marital woes at corruption trial Trial of former Gov. Bob McDonnell Journalists surround former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, obscured, after a day in court in Richmond, Va., where he and his wife, Maureen, are on trial. (Bob Brown / Associated Press) By Timothy M. Phelps contact the reporter In what some call the 'crazy-wife defense,' fallen GOP star McDonnell testifies for hours on couple's problems Maureen McDonnell doesn't interact with husband and former governor during their joint corruption trial Former Gov. McDonnell says his wife arranged most loans and gifts from businessman Jonnie Williams The troubled marriage of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, has become the centerpiece of the couple's corruption trial in federal court here. But it's not prosecutors who are exposing the embarrassing and highly personal details. It's Bob McDonnell. In defending against federal charges that he and his wife conspired to take up to $177,000 in gifts and loans from a millionaire in exchange for political favors, McDonnell took the stand last week, insisting that his marriage is in such bad shape that he and his wife are hardly speaking, much less capable of conspiring in a plot to extort money. Bob McDonnell Ex-Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife are accused of conspiring to do political favors for a millionaire in exchange for gifts and loans. (Bob Brown / Richmond Times-Dispatch) Once considered a rising Republican star and possible vice presidential candidate, McDonnell testified repeatedly — even reciting from private emails he sent his wife — that it was clear who was to blame for both the marital problems and the questionable dealings: Maureen McDonnell. In what some pundits are calling the "crazy-wife defense," McDonnell, a former courtroom lawyer and longtime politician who is used to being onstage, told the court it was difficult to discuss his marital problems in public. Yet he did so in clinical detail for hours and hours, insisting he was a man chiefly concerned with his wife's mental health and his children's welfare.
Much of his testimony seemed like a soap opera storyline. He painted a picture of his wife as an unsophisticated woman who raised the children and sold vitamins from a home-based business, but started having screaming fits at him and the governor's mansion staff after being thrust into the responsibility of being the state's first lady. Over three days of testimony, McDonnell calmly and without showing emotion described how his marriage slowly deteriorated as he rose from a state delegate to attorney general to governor. After a particularly difficult Labor Day weekend in 2011, McDonnell sent a message to his wife from his BlackBerry: "I am completely at a loss as to how to handle the fiery anger and hate from you that has become more and more frequent. You told me again yesterday that you would wreck my things and how bad I am. It hurt me to my core." He and his wife did not interact in the courtroom, even when seated in close proximity. During most of his testimony, she looked straight past him, at times gripping a large ceramic cross in the palm of her hand. McDonnell said he had moved in with his parish priest about a week before the trial because he "did not have the emotional ability to go home and revisit things every night with Maureen." McDonnell testified that at first he liked entrepreneur Jonnie R. Williams, a local purveyor of supposed miracle cures for everything from wrinkles to cancer. Williams showered the couple with attention, gifts and financial support. In return, Williams says, the couple agreed to promote his business. Once at odds with federal regulators over claims that his tobacco-extract product could treat Alzheimer's disease and multiple sclerosis, Williams is now the government's star witness. The McDonnells were charged in a 14-count indictment with promoting Williams' products in return for lavish gifts for them and their children, including $15,000 for their daughter's wedding expenses, golf clubs for their sons, $19,000 in designer clothes for Maureen, numerous vacations, $120,000 in low-interest loans, and a $6,500 Rolex watch inscribed "71st Governor of Virginia." McDonnell said he saw Williams' growing closeness with his wife as a benefit, not a threat, as it seemed to make her happy and provide her with emotional support he admitted he was not capable of providing her. He said he did not think Williams and his wife had a physical relationship, but rather "an emotional attachment." The challenge for the prosecution will be demonstrating a quid pro quo between Williams' gifts and McDonnell's support, which is essential to proving a political corruption charge. Prosecutors allege the financially strapped McDonnells tried their best to help Williams, hosting a lunch at the mansion to help launch his new product, Anatabloc, and introducing the businessman to state health officials. Maureen McDonnell spoke at several media events promoting Anatabloc, and the governor sent a few emails prodding state educators to talk to Williams. The former governor testified he was taking three to five of Williams' pills a day. McDonnell testified that most of the loans and gifts were arranged by his wife, though he admitted he personally pushed Williams hard for a $50,000 loan to cover expenses at two beach rental properties. He also gratefully accepted the use of Williams' private airplane for campaign and personal travel, numerous dinners, and a round of golf for him and his family at a ritzy country club. Shortly after a $50,000 loan to his wife and a $15,000 gift for the wedding, McDonnell sent Williams an email saying, "Thanks for all your help with my family." But McDonnell said Williams' testimony that the governor was personally involved in arranging the loan to his wife and many other transactions was false. It remains to be seen whether the jury of five women and seven men will sympathize with McDonnell's marital plight or be turned off by his legal strategy of blaming his wife. Government attorneys will get their chance to cross-examine McDonnell starting this week. Maureen McDonnell is not expected to take the stand.
But McDonnell himself seemed pleased after the direct testimony about his marriage was over Thursday. "Did I do OK?" he asked two of his sisters and other family members seated in the first row. "Did I cover myself OK? www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-mcdonnell-trial-20140824-story.htmlI think that will suffice. However, even after he ws found guilty, by you asking me to provide proof & your snide comment plus numarymag "liking" your request just shows that despite their corruption & "family values" you & her are still defensive of all things Republican. LOLOLOLOLOL. don't be so gullible. could be a good cop/bad cop scenario. if I find any hard evidence of that I'll let you know, but right now it's as good as anything you have Why in the world would she consent to not only be portrayed as a nutty, but also having had "a crush" on Williams? Why would she want to take the fall, taking all the blame?
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Post by thelion on Sept 5, 2014 15:00:28 GMT -5
I'm eginning to think that NuMary really has no clue as to what 'personal attack' means.
Hint - 'reporting what the ex-Gov testified in court is not 'personal attack'.
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Post by maxwell on Sept 5, 2014 15:06:59 GMT -5
I'm eginning to think that NuMary really has no clue as to what 'personal attack' means. Hint - 'reporting what the ex-Gov testified in court is not 'personal attack'. I thought it was because I said pete's comment was "snide" & then her liking it was the attack. Either way, it's ridiculous.
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Post by dallasdimebags on Sept 5, 2014 16:28:21 GMT -5
He was a scape goat. Some Murderers don't serve 14 years. He shoulda gotten 14 years for the hair alone. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was really solid.
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