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Post by bob0627 on Nov 11, 2013 9:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2013 10:13:01 GMT -5
That's 1 hour 37 minutes and 42 seconds, how about a summary ?
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 11, 2013 10:40:26 GMT -5
It's about yet another criminal US alphabet agency, just like NIST, FEMA, IRS, NORAD, DHS, CIA, FBI, etc., all out to serve their wealthy masters and $%#$@ over everyone else.
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2013 11:55:15 GMT -5
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 11, 2013 13:34:24 GMT -5
Yeah that's exactly what I said, so just run along and watch the BBC, they always tell the truth same as the US MSM. What makes you think anything I post in this forum is strictly for you or even involves you in the least bit?
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Post by shred on Nov 12, 2013 4:59:29 GMT -5
The FDA doesn't have any effect upon my country or my life. This however, www.nice.org.uk/ does.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 12, 2013 8:18:41 GMT -5
I posted a video documentary about the FDA, not about you, your country or NICE. I already told you this is not about you, isn't it more than obvious? So try to keep your delusions of grandeur in check if you can. If you want to start a thread on those subjects, feel free to do so, this one is about the FDA.
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Post by shred on Nov 12, 2013 11:52:15 GMT -5
The problem is not that medicines have to be accredited by the Food and Drug Administration. The problem is your patent system. Corporations who create the medicines not only copyright their works but also patent them so that the whole way of making that type of medicine becomes locked to them (and licence holding partners).
This makes a medicine intellectual property, this prohibits the publishing of the recipe to the outside world and stops companies in other countries from making medicine without a very expensive licence from the patent holder.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 12, 2013 12:53:40 GMT -5
You don't know what the problems are because you admit you want to remain willfully ignorant. What you posted is only a small part of the problem and a denial of another problem. You decided not to view the video because you said it's "a load of unsubstantiated paranoid s**te" and you believe "the FDA doesn't have any effect upon [your] country or [your] life", so remain ignorant, it's a primary characteristic of yours anyway.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 12, 2013 14:48:03 GMT -5
That's right Toshi, don't worry about a thing, just keep taking your meds, they're ALL good for you. Big Pharma and the FDA are there to help you, they wouldn't lie and manipulate anything, that would be illegal. Just because the FDA only hires those who worked for Big Pharma for high positions and Big Pharma hires those who worked for the FDA for high level positions, it means nothing. Anyone who believes otherwise is a kook just like anyone who believes the 9/11 story is a massive lie. Government is there to help you.
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Post by shred on Nov 13, 2013 5:21:11 GMT -5
You don't know what the problems are because you admit you want to remain willfully ignorant. What you posted is only a small part of the problem and a denial of another problem. You decided not to view the video because you said it's "a load of unsubstantiated paranoid s**te" and you believe "the FDA doesn't have any effect upon [your] country or [your] life", so remain ignorant, it's a primary characteristic of yours anyway. Of course I know what the problems are, the problems are that big pharmaceutical companies are more interested in their intellectual property than curing people, hence they patent their medicines and only allow licence holders to manufacture their products. Ergo in a poverty stricken country like Sudan, only old (out of patent) medicines can be made whilst anti-retrovirals useful against HIV and AIDS might not be available due to the high cost of licences. The idea however is to have a debate and compare ideas. You start with the defacto position that the FDA is a conspiracy, I think that is untrue. Any new medicine has to be tested to make sure it is safe, medicines which are not safe can have horrendous side effects, as a trial of the experimental drug Paraxel found in 2006: www.theguardian.com/society/2007/feb/17/health.lifeandhealthImagine if there was no authority controlling what pharmaceuticals are allowed to be sold, and Paraxel briefly entered widespread use ? It could kill.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 13, 2013 8:08:04 GMT -5
"Of course I know what the problems are"
Yes, you know everything but you don't want to watch the video. You already know in advance what it's about fake one:
"the video's a load of unsubstantiated paranoid s**te then"
"Imagine if there was no authority controlling what pharmaceuticals are allowed to be sold"
If you saw the video you would understand the problems.
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Post by shred on Nov 13, 2013 8:30:06 GMT -5
I don't have speakers at this PC, I'm at work on a break. I have tried to watch a few of your videos in my spare time at home, but there's a trend of the videos you favour of being the crappy unsubstantiated conspiracy theory s**tE variety.
I do understand the problems. The lack of availability of good medicines in the 3rd world is a big problem. The AIDS epidemic in Africa is a big problem. The FDA doesn't matter, what matters is that millions are dying each year from water borne diseases, from malaria, from AIDS, from a lack of effective medicines.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 13, 2013 8:43:37 GMT -5
"I don't have speakers at this PC, I'm at work on a break. I have tried to watch a few of your videos in my spare time at home, but there's a trend of the videos you favour of being the crappy unsubstantiated conspiracy theory s**tE variety."
Good excuse. The post has been there for 2 days now. You work 24/7? So don't bother, just spew your irrelevant s**t as you usually do. What you believe means zero to me anyway.
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Post by shred on Nov 13, 2013 9:54:16 GMT -5
A) I've been too busy. B) I'm interested most in fun things, not unsubstantiated lies. The fact that the titular freak Gary Null denies a link between HIV and AIDS says it all. He's a numpty, a barmpot, a dangerously dozy fruitcake of a man whose ignorant ideas could cause someone's death.
Even if I had time an hours worth of mindless conspiracy drivel doesn't appeal. I'd rather watch a factual documentary like Hot Jets Cold War, after all it was a period in which Britain lead the world in Jet aircraft technology.
Watch any unsubstantiated s**te you wish to Bob Zombie, but don't expect others to.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 13, 2013 11:11:04 GMT -5
I don't give a s**t about you or your beliefs. The video I posted is for those who care to view it, not for fakes such as yourself. It's "a load of unsubstantiated paranoid s**te" to you so that should end it, right? So why do you still post in this thread then if you're not interested?
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Post by shred on Nov 14, 2013 10:51:24 GMT -5
I don't give a s**t about your brainless unsubstantiated unprovable brainless s**tty conspiracy videos. You've been caught lying many times so it's a bit rich you calling anyone a fake you pathetic lying troll.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 14, 2013 11:16:24 GMT -5
I don't give a s**t about your brainless unsubstantiated unprovable brainless s**tty conspiracy videos. You've been caught lying many times so it's a bit rich you calling anyone a fake you pathetic lying troll. Ooh, I'm so hurt by these insults I won't be able to sleep at night.
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Post by shred on Nov 14, 2013 12:36:17 GMT -5
You do so much sleeping in the day nobody would notice.
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