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Post by shred on Oct 28, 2013 5:47:52 GMT -5
The US Government couldn't even keep a few NSA documents and powerpoint presentations from being leaked by Edward Snowden, Chinese hackers have stolen blueprints for the F35 lightning II stealth capable VSTOL capable fighter from Pentagon computers, Gary McKinnon is still wanted by your government for hacking US military networks and NASA, and you think the US government could cover up their role in 9/11 if they'd been behind it ?
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 28, 2013 7:28:08 GMT -5
"The US Government couldn't even keep a few NSA documents and powerpoint presentations from being leaked by Edward Snowden"
No it could not, nor what Manning exposed, nor what all the 9/11 whistle blowers exposed.
"Get real Bob"
I guess you ran out of arguments to try to support the official narrative so you're trying to make 9/11 about me. The EVIDENCE, SCIENCE, LOGIC, not to mention government's OWN ADMISSIONS and IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTIONS that clearly PROVES the government narrative is a massive LIE is overwhelming. So you found Barbara Honegger's presentation too much for you to try to handle, did you? Yeah, I think it says an awful lot too.
If you noticed, as I'm sure you did, government can't cover up its role in 9/11. The STAND DOWN is historical FACT (9/11 happened without any attempt by government to try to prevent or stop it, that's irrefutable, indisputable and incontrovertible HISTORY) and there are many whistle blowers who can't be silenced. Thousands of experts and academics are not being silenced either and more and more people are starting to learn the FACTS about 9/11, thanks to them and their relentless campaign to try to educate the ignorant and gullible. Those who feverishly try to support and protect the official narrative (such as you) are becoming dinosaurs, especially in the very bright light of the FACT that government LIES about just about EVERYTHING is being exposed daily.
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Post by peteetongman on Oct 28, 2013 8:22:45 GMT -5
The US Government couldn't even keep a few NSA documents and powerpoint presentations from being leaked by Edward Snowden, Chinese hackers have stolen blueprints for the F35 lightning II stealth capable VSTOL capable fighter from Pentagon computers, Gary McKinnon is still wanted by your government for hacking US military networks and NASA, and you think the US government could cover up their role in 9/11 if they'd been behind it ? shred I was about to put out an APB on you. ;-) didn't see you for a few days |
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Post by richardcavessa on Oct 29, 2013 16:14:59 GMT -5
shreder: you think the US government could cover up their role in 9/11 if they'd been behind it ?
911 obviously not good enough, a blip on the radar, possibly the key, people are waking to reality the past 50 years......no matter how much you need to believe, better be ready, it is coming;
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Post by bob0627 on Oct 29, 2013 18:28:24 GMT -5
shreder: you think the US government could cover up their role in 9/11 if they'd been behind it ? 911 obviously not good enough, a blip on the radar, possibly the key, people are waking to reality the past 50 years......no matter how much you need to believe, better be ready, it is coming; But they did try hard and it did work in the beginning. They certainly had me fooled. Although the disintegration of the twin towers did not feel right with me when I first saw it, I did accept that it was caused by what the government claimed it was caused by since I had nothing I could put a finger on. This was also true with the many experts who have since done the research and are now staunch activists demanding a real investigation (Jones, Gage, Harrit, Lawyer, etc.). They all admitted to their failure to question the official narrative in the beginning. |
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2013 5:16:10 GMT -5
He needs something.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 7, 2013 8:10:57 GMT -5
Why, so I can be a brainless zombie who questions nothing about the official narrative just like you? |
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2013 10:46:00 GMT -5
You need a real education to stop being a mindless zombie who doesn't question the unsubstantiated debunked lies of Gage, Jones Harritt and mob.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 7, 2013 11:31:18 GMT -5
You need a real education to stop being a mindless zombie who doesn't question the unsubstantiated debunked lies of Gage, Jones Harritt and mob. As usual, the typical straw man response. One has to start with the official conspiracy theory. When you don't question any part of it, you accept it as truth. Because it comes from government, and anyone with half a brain knows that government lies, if not all the time, then most of the time, and as such, anything government says is (or should be) automatically suspect and definitely questioned by anyone with a brain rudimentary enough to understand this simple logic. In other words, it's irrelevant that others may or may not have information that further casts doubt on the official story, if you don't question it, you are in essence a sponge (or a zombie) who just accepts whatever he/she is told by authority just because it's labeled as "authority". If you have an intelligent open mind, you first start with the premise that government is likely not telling the truth. And if you operate under that premise, then you want to hear and learn of other possibilities, any additional EVIDENCE, expert opinion (in support AND in contradiction), etc. So this way you can establish for yourself what is mostly likely true, what is most likely false and what requires further questions and answers. And that's more or less how you can come to your own conclusions. This logic should not be too difficult for anyone with any reasonable intelligence to absorb, that is, if such a person is genuine and not a fake. |
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2013 12:44:14 GMT -5
Not a straw man at all, the lies you post are beyond stupid. The only way you could be so ignorant as to believe the tripe you post is to not have had a proper education.
There is no way your Government could have pulled something like this off, it's a logistical impossibility, it can't even keep people such as Edward Snowden quiet, there's no way there wouldn't be leaks if something like this were even proposed by the US Authorities. Even if, somehow, they managed to sneak a team into the buildings with unrestricted access to every floor, the scale of work is staggering, it'd take months to prepare even one of those buildings for demolition, and there's no way the charges would survive a 767 crash unscathed.
All your talk is hot air I'm afraid, so get real Bob, and get an education before it's too late.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 7, 2013 14:05:04 GMT -5
Sorry fake one, I'm quite well educated and have a long professional career. Neither I or my education have anything to do with 9/11.
As to you, you can't even defend the FACT that you never question one thing about the official conspiracy theory. That makes you either a sponge or a fake, there is no in between. It's one thing to question or disbelieve those who question the official theory but it's quite another to fail to question even the most minute piece of the official narrative, never mind the parts that make no sense and especially the parts that were publicly admitted lies.
In any case, 9/11 is not about you or me, so attacking me (or my education) for posting tons of information about 9/11 is utterly worthless other than to expose you as a fake. Note, I didn't say sponge because it's obvious to me you're not a sponge so you must be a fake. Like I said, there's no in between. The fact that you even started this thread you call "Get real Bob" is clear indication that you're more interested in attacking me than questioning the official 9/11 narrative.
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2013 16:18:16 GMT -5
No YOU are the fake one, you are peddling lies and propaganda that denies who was really behind it, i.e. the 19 kamikaze hijackers who flew and crashed the planes, and Osama Bin Laden's Islamic terrorist organisation which trained them and gave them their orders.
You really are a brainless zombie if you cannot see that the 19 hijackers did it.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 7, 2013 16:52:05 GMT -5
All you're doing is regurgitating the official conspiracy theory we were all fed (over and over again) and then adding I'm a "brainless zombie" if I just don't accept that story as true without question. And you also show that you accept it as true without questioning any of it. Or more likely, you pretend that's the case. So at the end of the day, all you did was agree with all my points about you but you're just not bright enough to understand that that's exactly what you did. And you're saying I'm not educated?
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2013 17:23:07 GMT -5
No all you are doing is denying what really happened, excusing the terrorists who did it and going to extremely convoluted lengths to paint a false version of events to blame the US Government for something it didn't do.
There's enough crimes your Government really is guilty of, you'd get more respect by focusing on the real world instead of peddling silly and implausible conspiracy theories. You have no evidence, no motive and by the looks of it no brains either.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 7, 2013 18:10:46 GMT -5
The problem with what you're saying is even if all of it is 100% true, it doesn't refute (or even argue) one single thing I posted about you. Actually you can't refute what I posted about you because your own posts prove I'm right. You don't even bother to try (as anyone can see by your latest post) and as a result your agreement stands.
The other problem is what you're saying (besides yet another regurgitation of the official story) is utter nonsense in the first place. Every single post I have ever written about 9/11 really just shows time and time again that the official story is impossible. There is not one "version" of 9/11 I've ever tried to "paint" because I don't know what the real version is. I can't possibly know because I was not involved in the 9/11 crime. Only those who were involved have the factual version. So at the same time I can't deny what really happened because I don't know what really happened, all I have are a bunch of massive lies and a ton of facts that prove these are massive lies.
Yet another fail.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 8, 2013 12:06:45 GMT -5
No all you are doing is denying what really happened, excusing the terrorists who did it and going to extremely convoluted lengths to paint a false version of events to blame the US Government for something it didn't do. There's enough crimes your Government really is guilty of, you'd get more respect by focusing on the real world instead of peddling silly and implausible conspiracy theories. You have no evidence, no motive and by the looks of it no brains either. Dude, it's a waste of time talking about this with boob. His brain is so $%#$@ing ROTTED from the bulls**t he has funneled into his ears and eyes, he's FAR from gone. Just point and laugh... That's it Toshi, so why are you bothering then? Just point and laugh, that's the most anyone can expect from a sponge. aibafs.com/thread/12746/ugly-truth?page=1&scrollTo=90114 |
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2013 12:33:32 GMT -5
You have no evidence, no facts, no motive, no reason for the US Government to do what you're accusing them of, you just keep whining about things you don't understand as if it's evidence of some kind of conspiracy... It isn't, wake up. You would waste a fortune in US taxes on a new investigation that can only find the same facts that previous investigations have found. 19 Muslim hijackers did it. Start thinking about why planes were flown into the twin towers and why the twin towers collapsed exactly where the planes had hit. And if you're so damned paranoid as to wonder where I'm posting from, just plonk my ip address into this site and run a check on me: www.dnsstuff.com/ |
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 8, 2013 13:03:31 GMT -5
The Fake:
"You have no evidence, no facts, no motive, no reason for the US Government to do what you're accusing them of, you just keep whining about things you don't understand as if it's evidence of some kind of conspiracy... It isn't, wake up.
You would waste a fortune in US taxes on a new investigation that can only find the same facts that previous investigations have found. 19 Muslim hijackers did it.
Start thinking about why planes were flown into the twin towers and why the twin towers collapsed exactly where the planes had hit."
Still not one single question about the official story. But he never fails to parrot the official party line. Sure why bother spending a single dime on any 9/11 investigation, it's too expensive, just buy what you've been fed, it's as simple as it gets. But yet spend trillions on illegal wars based on something that's never been investigated and break the back of every American in the process.
"And if you're so damned paranoid as to wonder where I'm posting from, just plonk my ip address into this site and run a check on me:"
It's easy to fake an IP address and I've already checked into the one you use, it's located about 100 miles from where you claim you live. It's not important to me. You're an obvious fake, you're too transparent and too immature to fake your own fakery.
The Sponge:
Posts a picture of himself shooting up. One of his many.
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2013 15:38:03 GMT -5
He talks some right s**te doesn't he eh Toshi ? LOL
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 8, 2013 19:27:17 GMT -5
He talks some right s**te doesn't he eh Toshi ? LOL If you need Toshi to help you with your fakery, you've got to be hopelessly desperate. At least try to use someone with some reasonable intelligence and at least at your level of maturity not less. Then again, it's difficult to find someone with any reasonable level of intelligence who swallows government bulls**t without asking any questions. |
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2013 4:26:32 GMT -5
LOL! You're the fake. You're the one spamming this board with unsubstantiated bulls**t conspiracy theories.
You can't handle the truth.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 11, 2013 7:45:39 GMT -5
Yep I have to admit I post unsubstantiated bulls**t 9/11 conspiracy theories. Here I go again: How else am I supposed to show that they're unsubstantiated bulls**t conspiracy theories? Even the bulls**tters don't buy them: aibafs.freeforums.net/thread/10965/commissioners-buy-official-story-why But you parrot these unsubstantiated bulls**t 9/11 conspiracy theories relentlessly as if they were true and you never question any of it. That's why I said you're a fake, because you know very well they're unsubstantiated bulls**t conspiracy theories. I don't believe you're really that gullible and you're certainly not illiterate. |
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2013 8:57:33 GMT -5
You posted lies I debunked your lies, you lost. Quit whining and get a life ya fraud.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 11, 2013 9:14:02 GMT -5
I lost? I'm confused, I had no idea I was in some kind of game. What game was I playing? What did I lose? And that means you won (I think). So congratulations, I'm so impressed, what did you win?
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2013 10:19:22 GMT -5
You entered a debate by posting lies, I debunked your lies, you lost the debate.
Your entire argument seems to revolve around denying the hijackings and denying the role of the plane crashes in bringing down the Twin Towers. You misrepresent what happened to WTC7 to the extent that you seem to be ignoring the damage caused to it by the collapses of the twin towers and the severe fires inside. Basically you post whatever tripe the conspiracy webs**tes can feed you instead of investigating the facts.
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Post by bob0627 on Nov 11, 2013 10:37:14 GMT -5
Lie all you want, I'm not interested. I'll continue to post as I see fit. If you think I "lost" in your delusional mind, then I lost in your delusional mind, it's not something that means anything to me. You don't like it? Ask me if I care. Your useless thread is about me, not about 9/11 any other topic, and it's entitled "Get real Bob", so this is as real as it gets not your lies and delusions. I'm done promoting your worthless thread. I probably should have never responded in the first place.
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Post by shred on Nov 12, 2013 5:05:38 GMT -5
You're the one who is under the delusion of it being an inside job, despite your total lack of evidence evidence or motive.
Despite every claim you've made having been debunked you cling to your delusion like an intellectual cripple afraid of clattering to the floor in a heap. Stop being so pathetic, faker.
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Post by shred on Nov 13, 2013 5:03:43 GMT -5
Poor Bob.
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