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Post by shred on Sept 25, 2013 10:22:03 GMT -5
On Saturday, Al Shabaab gunmen stormed the Westgate shopping centre in Nairobi, Kenya, they started killing non muslims including children. But according to conspiracy theorists it was all Barack Obama's fault. www.prisonplanet.com/washingtons-tyranny.htmlI'd laugh if the circumstances weren't so tragic.
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Post by shred on Sept 26, 2013 7:00:25 GMT -5
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 26, 2013 7:21:14 GMT -5
That's called censorship. Are you a proponent of censorship? Do you feel that one is a "conspiracy theorist" because one opposes censorship?
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Post by shred on Sept 26, 2013 8:46:22 GMT -5
I'm not a proponent of censorship I believe in free and open debates. Considering all the conspiracy theory videos on youtube I'd say youtube usually let people exercise free speech no matter what their ideas, but I guess there are limits. The Westgate massacre happened a matter of days ago, the wounds are fresh and families are grieving.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 26, 2013 9:01:03 GMT -5
"I'm not a proponent of censorship I believe in free and open debates."
That doesn't answer why you labeled those who "moaned" (as you described it) about the censorship "conspiracy theorists". That's generally a label often used by government and the media to try to discredit and/or silence anyone who questions anything published by government and its complicit media puppets.
"Considering all the conspiracy theory videos on youtube I'd say youtube usually let people exercise free speech no matter what their ideas, but I guess there are limits."
Perhaps there should be limits (on YouTube at least) such as pornography and other material that may not be suitable for children. But this is outright selective censorship.
"The Westgate massacre happened a matter of days ago, the wounds are fresh and families are grieving."
So? That has nothing to do with the public at large. True journalism does not censor anything for such a reason. Do you believe they should never report any murder (or wait for the "right" time) out of sensitivity to victims' families?
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Post by shred on Sept 26, 2013 10:11:27 GMT -5
I'm not an employee of youtube and don't know their reasons, if I were to speculate I'd guess that someone thought the video was in bad taste and reported it.
Personally I think false theories should be challenged not censored.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 26, 2013 10:19:32 GMT -5
A non-answer once again to your "conspiracy theorist" label.
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Post by shred on Sept 26, 2013 10:31:15 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the US Embassy bombings of 1998 in Kenya Bob ?
What are your thoughts on the embassy bombings and other terrorist attacks / kidnappings in that part of the world ?
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 26, 2013 10:46:09 GMT -5
"Wasn't one of the US Embassy bombings of 1998 in Kenya Bob ?"
I'm sure you can answer that yourself.
"What are your thoughts on the embassy bombings and other terrorist attacks / kidnappings in that part of the world ?"
They happen.
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Post by shred on Sept 27, 2013 3:56:50 GMT -5
Al Qaeda's attacks on the USA (and allies) began in 1993 with the bomb attack on the WTC, then there were attacks against UNOSOM in Somalia, then there was the failed 1995 Bojinka plot. 2008 Embassy Bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. The failed Millennium bomber plot to attack LA international airport. The USS Cole bombing. The coordinated kamikaze hijackings of airliners on 11/9/2001. 22 December 2001 the attempted bombing of American Airlines Flight 63. the Ghriba Synagogue bombing 11/4/2002. The 6/10/2002 Limburgh bombing. The 12/10/2002 Bali bombings. The 28/11/2002 Mombassa attacks. 12/05/2003 Riyadh bombings. The 16/05/2003 Casablanca bombings. The 5/08/2003 Marriott hotel bombing in Jakarta. The 29/8/2003 Imam Ali Mosque bombing in Iraq. The 15/11/2003 Istanbul truck bomb attacks. The 2/02/2004 Irbil bombings in Iraq. The 2/03/2004 Ashura bombings in Iraq. The 21/04/2004 Basra bombings in Iraq. The 11/3/2004 Madrid bombings. 29/05//2004 Khobar massacre in Saudi Arabia. 7th July 2005 London suicide bombings. 14/09/2005 Baghdad bombings. 18/11/2005 suicide bombings of Shia Mosques in Khanaqin, Iraq. 7/4/2006 Buratha Mosque bombing Baghdad, Iraq. 23/11/2006 Sadr city six car bombs and two mortar bombs used in attacks against Shias in Iraq. 3/02/2007 Baghdad market bombing. 27/03/2007 Tal Afar massacre, Iraq. 18/04/2007 Baghdad car bombings. 14/08/2007 Yazidi community suicide bombed in the Kurdish towns of Kahtaniya and Jazeera near Mosul. The 2/06/2008 Danish embassy bombing in Pakistan. 13/07/2008 Battle of Wanat in Nuristan province Afghanistan in which they fought alongside Taliban causing a US withdrawal. 20/09/2008 Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing. The 25/12/2009 attempted bombing of Northwest Airlines Flight 253. 30/12/2009 Camp Chapman attack Afghanistan. 13/02/2010 Pune bombing, India. 29/10/2010 Cargo planes Arab peninsular bomb plot. The 13/01/2013 In Amenas hostage crisis
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