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Post by bob0627 on May 2, 2013 13:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by shred on May 2, 2013 14:27:02 GMT -5
NO mention of the south side damage on his page, no mention of the damage done by WTC 1 no mention of the extensive fires inside.
He's a shoddy researcher.
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Post by bob0627 on May 2, 2013 14:46:11 GMT -5
"He's a shoddy researcher."
As usual and typical, another attack on yet another person you disagree with. Did you even bother to read anything or view the videos on his website or you just spew your crap as a knee jerk reaction?
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Post by shred on May 2, 2013 15:24:29 GMT -5
Not an attack a statement of truth, his methods are shoddy. What about the bigger picture ? The structural damage and fire ? He doesn't mention it. All he says is that it looks like a controlled demolition, and without the other jigsaw pieces it does. But the other jigsaw pieces are crucial to understanding and he doesn't provide the whole story. Also, there is no Yorkshire Police Department, there's North Yorkshire Police, South Yorkshire Police and West Yorkshire Police. But yes there are dodgy coppers in the force. This scumbag for example: www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10376510.PC_Matthew_Fisher__brought_disgrace__on_police_force/?ref=rss
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Post by bob0627 on May 2, 2013 15:52:50 GMT -5
"Not an attack a statement of truth, his methods are shoddy."
Reality and your truth are often not one and the same.
"What about the bigger picture ? The structural damage and fire ? He doesn't mention it."
Yeah he also failed to mention Bin Laden, Adam and Eve and Bugs Bunny, so his "methods" are "shoddy".
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Post by shred on May 3, 2013 4:06:42 GMT -5
The other jigsaw pieces (i.e. south side damage and the fire) are crucial to understanding and he doesn't provide the whole story. So his methods ARE SHODDY.
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 7:36:30 GMT -5
The other jigsaw pieces (i.e. south side damage and the fire) are crucial to understanding and he doesn't provide the whole story. So his methods ARE SHODDY. No they're not. All one needs are the videos. The free fall can be calculated from the videos. Professor David Chandler does an excellent job proving the free fall from the videos using software to calculate it. But even without the software, one can come close to counting down the seconds it took WTC7 to collapse.
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Post by shred on May 3, 2013 7:43:57 GMT -5
The videos of the collapse LOOK like a controlled demolition. Doesn't mean the collapse IS a controlled demolition. The lack of any explosions in all legit (not your fake doctored vid) footage proves it wasn't. The footage of fire and smoke in the building is quite conclusive, an inferno raged in the damaged WTC7 and the firefighters couldn't put it out.
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 11:23:38 GMT -5
"The videos of the collapse LOOK like a controlled demolition. Doesn't mean the collapse IS a controlled demolition."
Absolutely. And a picture of your mom doesn't mean it actually is your mom or even a woman. If you read my post for comprehension, you would have noted it's not just the video that shows it's not a natural collapse, although it's almost a slam dunk by itself, there is that little matter of the FREE FALL for 2+ seconds, which is calculable, not to mention the near free fall speed of the entire structure and the total symmetrical manner in which the building collapsed which is all quite clearly seen on the videos.
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 13:16:02 GMT -5
I see the heroin addict is STILL at it. This is a perfect example of what not to do. You get a pass because you are warned after the fact. There was no need for the above. If you disagree with anything I posted, you can state your case or just stay out of the discussion if you can't control yourself.
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 13:47:35 GMT -5
I liked your example better 2 posts ago, bringing up shred's mom. Stay classy bob! I know this going to be a difficult concept for you but it's apples and oranges. Your post was specifically meant to be a personal attack, mine was not, it was simply an analogy.
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 16:53:35 GMT -5
Why not a picture of an apple? Or a car? WHY HIS MOM? Why does that matter to you?
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 18:55:42 GMT -5
GEE, since you started the thread about NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS, you brought up his mother. It was an analogy, so? How is it a personal attack? How does it compare with your heroin addict slur? Why am I even discussing this irrelevant issue with you? You're one of the biggest offenders here and you're obviously trying to create an issue where there is none. You're one of the primary reasons why the personal attack issue came up in the first place.
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Post by bob0627 on May 3, 2013 21:35:21 GMT -5
"you could have used a different analogy, other than HIS MOTHER."
True I could have but I didn't. I'm sure Shred can speak for himself so this has nothing to do with you.
"I am done with you, you are a waste of time."
Thank you, coming from a true waste of time, it is appreciated. At least you managed to control yourself so you showed that the efforts of the admins to crack down on personal attacks are successful ... so far.
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Post by shred on May 4, 2013 4:53:57 GMT -5
The collapse of WTC7 was a multi stage collapse, troofers love to leave out important details like the south side damage, the internal damage, the fire, the collapse of the east penthouse, the loss of structural integrity hours before it fell, firefighter testimonies, all the jigsaw pieces needed to understand the bigger picture.
I don't understand how someone who professes to be interested in truth can leave out so many details and substitute a fake youtube vid with fake explosion sounds as evidence while ignoring all undoctored youtube vids of the full collapse.
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Post by bob0627 on May 4, 2013 8:42:19 GMT -5
"The collapse of WTC7 was a multi stage collapse"
All the video show the collapse quite clearly. The entire building went down at once, in one piece, at free fall and near free fall speed. So what "stages" are you talking about?
"troofers love to leave out important details ..."
Who are "troofers"? I don't know of any.
"I don't understand how someone who professes to be interested in truth can leave out so many details and substitute a fake youtube vid with fake explosion sounds as evidence while ignoring all undoctored youtube vids of the full collapse."
Who would that be? What "fake youtube vid with fake explosion sounds"?
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Post by shred on May 4, 2013 10:23:53 GMT -5
The fake youtube vid you posted.
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Post by bob0627 on May 4, 2013 12:11:08 GMT -5
The fake youtube vid you posted. Sorry you're making things up as usual, I never posted anything that's fake that I know of. I know I challenged you to support your fallacious claim about one video and all you managed to do was state your opinion, you were not able to support your claim.
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Post by shred on May 4, 2013 18:31:22 GMT -5
You didn't realise it was fake when you posted it, but you did post it (albeit in good faith).
This video on the other hand IS genuine undoctored raw footage which includes the collapse of the east penthouse.
Anyway I'm flying tomorrow so I need my beauty sleep. Goodnight Bob, hope you're having a great weekend.
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Post by bob0627 on May 4, 2013 23:15:18 GMT -5
"You didn't realise it was fake when you posted it"
If you say so. I haven't come across any fake video, just your bulls**t made up opinion that anything you don't agree with and you can't explain is fake.
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Post by shred on May 5, 2013 4:22:07 GMT -5
When caught in another lie you try and pretend you never posted it.
Your video featured fake explosion sounds, admit you made a mistake.
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Post by bob0627 on May 5, 2013 9:03:28 GMT -5
When caught in another lie you try and pretend you never posted it. Your video featured fake explosion sounds, admit you made a mistake. I don't have ANY videos, so that's a lie. I never posted a link to any video that features "fake explosion sounds", you're the one lying. The one video I showed that YOU claim is doctored, you can't come up with any evidence that it is doctored, just your made up claim, so that's another lie among many, many.
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