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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 7:55:19 GMT -5
A Winston-Salem restaurant is giving customers a 15 percent discount if they pray in public. Mary’s Gourmet Diner in Winston-Salem gives the discount for anyone who takes the time to appreciate their food before digging in. Although the restaurant has been offering the special for four years, a recent Facebook post featuring a receipt with the discount has gone viral, highlighting the practice. Jordan Smith was on a business trip when she got her discount. She told HLN that she and her colleagues "prayed over our meal and the waitress came over at the end of the meal and said, "Just so you know, we gave you a 15 percent discount for praying." A Christian radio station, Z88.3, Orlando Fla., posted an image of the receipt to its Facebook page, where it has received more than 7,400 likes:::::::::::::::::::::::::: www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/08/01/north-carolina-restaurant-offers-15-percent-discount-to-pray-in-public/
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Post by maxwell on Aug 4, 2014 9:24:20 GMT -5
I wonder if that only applies to an "approved" God or would one still receive a discount if one prays & thanks Satan for the food they are about to receive?
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Post by shaniqua on Aug 4, 2014 10:17:31 GMT -5
I wonder if that only applies to an "approved" God or would one still receive a discount if one prays & thanks Satan for the food they are about to receive? How about if an American citizen threw down a prayer rug and prayed? What about snake handling? Speaking in tongues? How about saying the rosary at your table?
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 11:20:53 GMT -5
I wonder if that only applies to an "approved" God or would one still receive a discount if one prays & thanks Satan for the food they are about to receive? You should call them and ask them. they don't seem to be as shy as you are with letting people know their views
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 11:23:09 GMT -5
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Post by maxwell on Aug 4, 2014 11:23:36 GMT -5
I wonder if that only applies to an "approved" God or would one still receive a discount if one prays & thanks Satan for the food they are about to receive? You should call them and ask them. they don't seem to be as shy as you are with letting people know their views Why would I? I have no intention on visiting that town, let alone that establishment. It's called asking a hypothetical question. "Shy"? What are you talking about?
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Post by maxwell on Aug 4, 2014 11:24:58 GMT -5
Seeing anybody pray in public doesn't bother me as long as they don't block me from going about my business.
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 11:25:29 GMT -5
"Shy"? What are you talking about?"
you'll ask the question on an anonymous forum but you wouldn't ask the actual restaurant in a million years.
that's what I'm talking about
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Post by maxwell on Aug 4, 2014 11:26:43 GMT -5
"Shy"? What are you talking about?" you'll ask the question on an anonymous forum but you wouldn't ask the actual restaurant in a million years. that's what I'm talking about Sure I would if I were a resident of that town.
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Post by shaniqua on Aug 4, 2014 11:29:58 GMT -5
"Shy"? What are you talking about?" you'll ask the question on an anonymous forum but you wouldn't ask the actual restaurant in a million years. that's what I'm talking about Why are you so beechy today? Not feeling well?
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Post by fwiw2 on Aug 4, 2014 12:16:55 GMT -5
The after church crowds are noted for being cheap. A 15% discount and offering their blessings as a tip to their server would make for a good mealtime experience. And they only want water, it's free. With a free peace of lemon of course.
The girls at local eateries draw straws to see who will waste their Sunday serving the cheap Christians.
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 13:42:09 GMT -5
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 13:46:09 GMT -5
"Shy"? What are you talking about?" you'll ask the question on an anonymous forum but you wouldn't ask the actual restaurant in a million years. that's what I'm talking about Why are you so beechy today? Not feeling well? feel great, thanks for asking, but it does sort-of irritate me that some people have a knee-jerk reaction anytime they hear the words "God" "prayer" or "Christian" One can imagine how upset some liberals might be if the the Flying Spaghetti Police Car s**tter Monster was denigrated, or whatever the f they worship.
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Post by shaniqua on Aug 4, 2014 13:54:25 GMT -5
Why are you so beechy today? Not feeling well? feel great, thanks for asking, but it does sort-of irritate me that some people have a knee-jerk reaction anytime they hear the words "God" "prayer" or "Christian" One can imagine how upset some liberals might be if the the Flying Spaghetti Police Car s**tter Monster was denigrated, or whatever the f they worship. Aw, po po Peteet. I have a problem with your problem. You are sure getting grouchy. Lighten the f up, dude. Go pray about it.
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Post by fwiw2 on Aug 4, 2014 14:29:35 GMT -5
No, not fabricated Pete. I eat out regularly at a few local restaurants and the waitresses know me well enough to fill me in on their routines. Waitresses consider dealing with the after church crowds on Wednesdays and Sundays as paying their tithes. 8 women sit at a table and order the special deals, ask for separate checks and leave the loose change from paying their tickets for a tip.
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 4, 2014 14:48:49 GMT -5
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Post by shaniqua on Aug 4, 2014 14:59:53 GMT -5
Jeezus, Peteet, take a chill pill. You are really upset today. Calm down.
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Post by fwiw2 on Aug 4, 2014 16:24:48 GMT -5
Well Mr Pete, the TRUTH, taken in individual instances is just anecdotes. So should we dismiss everything as anecdotal?
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Post by maxwell on Aug 4, 2014 18:37:55 GMT -5
Why are you so beechy today? Not feeling well? feel great, thanks for asking, but it does sort-of irritate me that some people have a knee-jerk reaction anytime they hear the words "God" "prayer" or "Christian" One can imagine how upset some liberals might be if the the Flying Spaghetti Police Car s**tter Monster was denigrated, or whatever the f they worship. LOL. I am a Christian, & I believe in God. I have said so many times on this forum. However, it obviously isn't the right kind of God, or Christianity because I believe any decisions a woman makes concerning her own body is hers alone & if a gay couple want to marry then they should be able to. And if you are irritated because some people such as myself question the possible narrow mindness & judgement for those that might disagree or believe differently, then that's on you.
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Post by kara on Aug 4, 2014 20:57:12 GMT -5
No, not fabricated Pete. I eat out regularly at a few local restaurants and the waitresses know me well enough to fill me in on their routines. Waitresses consider dealing with the after church crowds on Wednesdays and Sundays as paying their tithes. 8 women sit at a table and order the special deals, ask for separate checks and leave the loose change from paying their tickets for a tip. yep. several servers have said what cheapass tippers church going christians are.
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 5, 2014 6:08:32 GMT -5
feel great, thanks for asking, but it does sort-of irritate me that some people have a knee-jerk reaction anytime they hear the words "God" "prayer" or "Christian" One can imagine how upset some liberals might be if the the Flying Spaghetti Police Car s**tter Monster was denigrated, or whatever the f they worship. LOL. I am a Christian, & I believe in God. I have said so many times on this forum. However, it obviously isn't the right kind of God, or Christianity because I believe any decisions a woman makes concerning her own body is hers alone & if a gay couple want to marry then they should be able to. And if you are irritated because some people such as myself question the possible narrow mindness & judgement for those that might disagree or believe differently, then that's on you. actually I wasn't thinking about you at all, not even a little bit when I made that post. I'm talking about people who can't help making up 'funny' names for Christians, and/or the ones who just CANNOT bring themselves to type the name of Jesus properly. With these people it's always "Jeebus" etc etc etc or some other derisive name, and then there are the ones who take the word 'Christmas' and change it to 'Xmas'. Oh yeah let's not forget 'The Flying Spaghetti Monster' and other insulting names for God. If a person doesn't believe in God or Jesus that's their choice and I say have a nice life, but don't insult people's religion. Odd how they don't make up funny names for Allah
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 5, 2014 6:10:11 GMT -5
"....several servers have said...."
anecdotal tales again in this thread.
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Post by maxwell on Aug 5, 2014 7:07:39 GMT -5
LOL. I am a Christian, & I believe in God. I have said so many times on this forum. However, it obviously isn't the right kind of God, or Christianity because I believe any decisions a woman makes concerning her own body is hers alone & if a gay couple want to marry then they should be able to. And if you are irritated because some people such as myself question the possible narrow mindness & judgement for those that might disagree or believe differently, then that's on you. actually I wasn't thinking about you at all, not even a little bit when I made that post. I'm talking about people who can't help making up 'funny' names for Christians, and/or the ones who just CANNOT bring themselves to type the name of Jesus properly. With these people it's always "Jeebus" etc etc etc or some other derisive name, and then there are the ones who take the word 'Christmas' and change it to 'Xmas'. Oh yeah let's not forget 'The Flying Spaghetti Monster' and other insulting names for God. If a person doesn't believe in God or Jesus that's their choice and I say have a nice life, but don't insult people's religion. Odd how they don't make up funny names for Allah My mistake then. But in case you didn't know as far as Xmas: Xmas Abbreviation Claim: Xmas' is a modern, disrespectful abbreviation of the word 'Christmas.' FALSEOrigins: The abbreviation of 'Xmas' for 'Christmas' is neither modern nor disrespectful. The notion that it is a new and vulgar representation of the word 'Christmas' seems to stem from the erroneous . belief that the letter 'X' is used to stand for the word 'Christ' because of its resemblance to a cross, or that the abbreviation was deliberately concocted "to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas." Actually, this usage is nearly as old as Christianity itself, and its origins lie in the fact that the first letter in the Greek word for 'Christ' is 'chi,' and the Greek letter 'chi' is represented by a symbol similar to the letter 'X' in the modern Roman alphabet. Hence 'Xmas' is indeed perfectly legitimate abbreviation for the word 'Christmas' (just as 'Xian' is also sometimes used as an abbreviation of the word 'Christian'). None of this means that Christians (and others) aren't justified in feeling slighted when people write 'Xmas' rather than 'Christmas,' but the point is that the abbreviation was not created specifically for the purpose of demeaning Christ, Christians, Christianity, or Christmas — it's a very old artifact of a very different language. Last updated: 24 December 2013 Read more at www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp#YZVEXK1SmB3hc6hb.99
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 5, 2014 7:11:11 GMT -5
actually I wasn't thinking about you at all, not even a little bit when I made that post. I'm talking about people who can't help making up 'funny' names for Christians, and/or the ones who just CANNOT bring themselves to type the name of Jesus properly. With these people it's always "Jeebus" etc etc etc or some other derisive name, and then there are the ones who take the word 'Christmas' and change it to 'Xmas'. Oh yeah let's not forget 'The Flying Spaghetti Monster' and other insulting names for God. If a person doesn't believe in God or Jesus that's their choice and I say have a nice life, but don't insult people's religion. Odd how they don't make up funny names for Allah My mistake then. But in case you didn't know as far as Xmas: Xmas Abbreviation Claim: Xmas' is a modern, disrespectful abbreviation of the word 'Christmas.' FALSEOrigins: The abbreviation of 'Xmas' for 'Christmas' is neither modern nor disrespectful. The notion that it is a new and vulgar representation of the word 'Christmas' seems to stem from the erroneous . belief that the letter 'X' is used to stand for the word 'Christ' because of its resemblance to a cross, or that the abbreviation was deliberately concocted "to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas." Actually, this usage is nearly as old as Christianity itself, and its origins lie in the fact that the first letter in the Greek word for 'Christ' is 'chi,' and the Greek letter 'chi' is represented by a symbol similar to the letter 'X' in the modern Roman alphabet. Hence 'Xmas' is indeed perfectly legitimate abbreviation for the word 'Christmas' (just as 'Xian' is also sometimes used as an abbreviation of the word 'Christian'). None of this means that Christians (and others) aren't justified in feeling slighted when people write 'Xmas' rather than 'Christmas,' but the point is that the abbreviation was not created specifically for the purpose of demeaning Christ, Christians, Christianity, or Christmas — it's a very old artifact of a very different language. Last updated: 24 December 2013 Read more at www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp#YZVEXK1SmB3hc6hb.99I don't care what snopes says. to strike an X across the name of Christ is disrespectful
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Post by maxwell on Aug 5, 2014 7:26:14 GMT -5
My mistake then. But in case you didn't know as far as Xmas: Xmas Abbreviation Claim: Xmas' is a modern, disrespectful abbreviation of the word 'Christmas.' FALSEOrigins: The abbreviation of 'Xmas' for 'Christmas' is neither modern nor disrespectful. The notion that it is a new and vulgar representation of the word 'Christmas' seems to stem from the erroneous . belief that the letter 'X' is used to stand for the word 'Christ' because of its resemblance to a cross, or that the abbreviation was deliberately concocted "to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas." Actually, this usage is nearly as old as Christianity itself, and its origins lie in the fact that the first letter in the Greek word for 'Christ' is 'chi,' and the Greek letter 'chi' is represented by a symbol similar to the letter 'X' in the modern Roman alphabet. Hence 'Xmas' is indeed perfectly legitimate abbreviation for the word 'Christmas' (just as 'Xian' is also sometimes used as an abbreviation of the word 'Christian'). None of this means that Christians (and others) aren't justified in feeling slighted when people write 'Xmas' rather than 'Christmas,' but the point is that the abbreviation was not created specifically for the purpose of demeaning Christ, Christians, Christianity, or Christmas — it's a very old artifact of a very different language. Last updated: 24 December 2013 Read more at www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp#YZVEXK1SmB3hc6hb.99I don't care what snopes says. to strike an X across the name of Christ is disrespectful Apparently, like a lot of people, you don't care what true facts are & just go on emotion or what you are told from the likes of any given right wing talking pundit. I'll throw this one in too, take note of the source: The Origin of "Xmas" Dennis Bratcher Some people seem to get worked up easily about things that are either largely irrelevant or incidental, or that they do not really understand. This seems to be the case with some religious folk when the topic is an aspect of Christianity that is personally important to them. For example, around Christmas each year there are always those who loudly decry the use of the abbreviation "Xmas" as some kind of blasphemy against Christ and Christianity. This concern has been elevated recently with the public debates about manger scenes and the substitution of "holiday" for Christmas in stores and government venues. Among religious folks, the objection to Xmas is usually along the line that people have taken Christ out of Christmas and replaced him with an unknown (since the Greek letter chi, [C,c] which looks like the English letter x, is the symbol for an unknown quantity in mathematics). For example, on the "Voice of Prophecy" web site is an article entitled "You Can’t 'X' out Christ." You’ve heard the classic story about the little boy who noticed the huge red-and-green sign spray-painted on a department story: "Happy Xmas." And he wondered aloud about the X. Why was it X-mas? And finally, in a forlorn voice, he asked his dad: "Did they cross Christ out of Christmas, Daddy?" And the father had never thought of it that way before, but finally nodded. "Yes, Son, I guess they did." And it makes you think. Well it certainly does make one think. It makes one think how uninformed or misinformed, and unnecessarily militant with that misinformation, so many Christians are concerning their own Faith. The story illustrates what could have been a marvelous opportunity to teach a child about some of the important symbolism of the Christian Faith. But it was an opportunity lost, in this story at least, because many Christians do not understand their own iconography and symbolism. The results are often battles waged against windmills while far more consequential issues for the Faith are neglected (a modern example of Matt. 23:23). Now, in all honesty, the article on that web site focuses on the secular commercialization of Christmas, something to which most Christians I know would object or at least with which they are uncomfortable. But the fact that the use of "Xmas" can be associated so easily with crass commercialization rather than locating it within the Christian tradition itself reveals a lack of understanding of heritage and history. The same perspective is obvious in this response to a BBC broadcast on the meaning of Christmas: The time has come to separate the religious festival of Christmas from the trading season of "xmas." It is as if the term "Xmas" used anywhere in public is part of some diabolical grinchly plot to subvert Christmas. This is implied in other places as well. A 2005 poll on the website bible.com, a popular biblical resource site, has this question: "What concerns you the most about how the world is attacking Christmas, a Christian holiday?" The four choices given in order are: 1) Using an "X" to replace Christ’s name in Christmas - i.e. Xmas; 2) Banning manger scenes from public places; 3) Substituting "Happy Holidays" for "Merry Christmas"; 4) Emphasizing Santa Claus over Baby Jesus. Certainly, the question does not imply what the web site itself thinks of the answers. But the fact that this issue can still be included with the other fears that people have about Christmas illustrates a continuing and significant level of misinformation mixed with people’s concerns. And the less than neutral language of the question ("world," "attacking," "Christian") certainly leaves the impression that using "Xmas" is part of some worldly plot to overthrow Christendom. This misunderstanding and fear mongering about the use of "Xmas" is not a new phenomenon. I heard the same kinds of comments in sermons many years ago. It was especially prevalent among those Christians and church leaders who wanted or needed to see the world in negative and threatening terms (see The Jonah Syndrome), or who tended to see everything in society as part of some grand conspiracy of Satan or the inexorable working out of God’s own predetermined plan, without really knowing all the facts or complexities of the situation (see Christians and Urban Legends). I have no doubt that some people write "Xmas" because they are too busy or too lazy to write out the whole word. And no doubt some secular people, who are just as uninformed as Christians, see "Xmas" as a way to avoid writing "Christ." And certainly there are secular and commercial motives in the fact that "XMAS" appears in ads and signs because it can be larger and more attention getting in the same amount of space (more bang for the buck). But those factors do not take away the thoroughly Christian origin of the word "Xmas." In this instance, all of the hype and hysteria over supposedly taking Christ out of Christmas by writing "Xmas" instead of spelling out "Christmas" is both uninformed and misdirected. Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Christian Symbols: Christmas Ornaments), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official battle standard of the emperor Constantine. Another example is the symbol of the fish, one of the earliest symbols of Christians that has been found scratched on the walls of the catacombs of Rome. It likely originated from using the first letter of several titles of Jesus (Jesus Christ Son of God Savior). When combined these initial letters together spelled the Greek word for fish (icquV, ichthus). The exact origin of the single letter X for Christ cannot be pinpointed with certainty. Some claim that it began in the first century AD along with the other symbols, but evidence is lacking. Others think that it came into widespread use by the thirteenth century along with many other abbreviations and symbols for Christianity and various Christian ideas that were popular in the Middle Ages. However, again, the evidence is sparse. In any case, by the fifteenth century Xmas emerged as a widely used symbol for Christmas. In 1436 Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press with moveable type. In the early days of printing typesetting was done by hand and was very tedious and expensive. As a result, abbreviations were common. In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C, or simply X, for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). Even Webster’s dictionary acknowledges that the abbreviation Xmas was in common use by the middle of the sixteenth century. So there is no grand scheme to dilute Christianity by promoting the use of Xmas instead of Christmas. It is not a modern invention to try to convert Christmas into a secular day, nor is it a device to promote the commercialism of the holiday season. Its origin is thoroughly rooted in the heritage of the Church. It is simply another way to say Christmas, drawing on a long history of symbolic abbreviations used in the church. In fact, as with other abbreviations used in common speech or writing (such as Mr. or etc.), the abbreviation "Xmas" should be pronounced "Christmas" just as if the word were written out in full, rather than saying "exmas." Understanding this use of Christian symbolism might help us modern day Xians focus on more important issues of the Faith during Advent, and bring a little more Peace to the Xmas Season. www.cresourcei.org/symbols/xmasorigin.htmlOr take your pick then: www.google.com/search?q=Xmas+origin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sbKnowledge, especially correct historical knowledge is power & not willing to learn true facts is weakness.
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Post by fwiw2 on Aug 5, 2014 8:20:29 GMT -5
Freedom of religion equals freedom from religion and eliminates any cult from becoming sacrosanct. But whether it be a Muslim sect or a Christian denomination there is a tendency for the religious devout to develop a sense of sanctified, inviolable status. And that religious arrogance is responsible for a great deal of the criticism against American churches.
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Post by dallasdimebags on Aug 5, 2014 10:26:41 GMT -5
LOL. I am a Christian, & I believe in God. I have said so many times on this forum. However, it obviously isn't the right kind of God, or Christianity because I believe any decisions a woman makes concerning her own body is hers alone & if a gay couple want to marry then they should be able to. And if you are irritated because some people such as myself question the possible narrow mindness & judgement for those that might disagree or believe differently, then that's on you. actually I wasn't thinking about you at all, not even a little bit when I made that post. I'm talking about people who can't help making up 'funny' names for Christians, and/or the ones who just CANNOT bring themselves to type the name of Jesus properly. With these people it's always "Jeebus" etc etc etc or some other derisive name, and then there are the ones who take the word 'Christmas' and change it to 'Xmas'. Oh yeah let's not forget 'The Flying Spaghetti Monster' and other insulting names for God. If a person doesn't believe in God or Jesus that's their choice and I say have a nice life, but don't insult people's religion. Odd how they don't make up funny names for Allah Hey now-Watch how you talk about Ali. He was a really good boxer. BTW-Did you hear about those filthy fundie muslims who killed a grandmother and her two granddaughters for the blasphemous crime of being from teh same sect as some guy who had posted a pic of a semi-nude woman on facebook. You gotta keep a close eye on those filthy fundie muslims.
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Post by apple on Aug 5, 2014 11:49:04 GMT -5
Is there a pre-approved selection of Gods to pray to? This could be confusing, and noisy.
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Post by peteetongman on Aug 5, 2014 18:16:32 GMT -5
Is there a pre-approved selection of Gods to pray to? This could be confusing, and noisy. yeah it's right here:
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Post by fwiw2 on Aug 5, 2014 19:56:50 GMT -5
Opinions vary.
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