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Post by shred on Jul 24, 2013 12:26:53 GMT -5
If it had been a controlled demolition (aside from a sequence of unmistakeable bangs and flashes) there would have been no serious resistance after collapse began and freefall wouldn't have been arrested. Think about it.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 24, 2013 12:35:12 GMT -5
If it had been a controlled demolition (aside from a sequence of unmistakeable bangs and flashes) there would have been no serious resistance after collapse began and freefall wouldn't have been arrested. Think about it. Huff and puff all you want, you can't change the FACT that it was in FREE FALL for 2.25 seconds. You can't change the FACT that FREE FALL can't happen unless ALL 82 steel columns are removed at the exact time. You can't change the FACT that fire simply can't remove all 82 steel columns at the exact same time. You can't change the FACT that if fire didn't do that then something else did. You can't change physics and logic no matter how much hot air you huff and puff. And you can't change the FACT that you're a fake.
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Post by shred on Jul 24, 2013 12:55:02 GMT -5
You're huffing and puffing, you ignore freefall was resisted after that which wouldn't have happened if a sequence of explosives had brought the building down.
You have bugger all evidence for controlled demolition, admit it.
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 24, 2013 13:11:10 GMT -5
"you ignore freefall was resisted after that"
Still huffing and puffing. Do you read or just blow hot air? Whether I ignored what happened after the FREE FALL or not doesn't change ANYTHING, it was still in FREE FALL as you ADMIT in your own words before whatever happened afterward. Yes there was resistance after the FREE FALL, there had to eventually be since the entire building was collapsing in one piece on itself. How does that change the FACT that it was in FREE FALL for the first 100 feet?
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Post by shred on Jul 24, 2013 16:33:25 GMT -5
You're the one who needs to learn mate, you spend all your days reading so many lies about 9/11 you believe the lies and reject the truth. It wasn't a controlled demolition, 2.25 seconds of arrested freefall isn't a controlled demolition so quit lying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 17:32:41 GMT -5
Shred: keep it up. For some the truth is too scary. What if there was no conspiracy. Some of our best rightie friends would have to live in the present. Oh wait, there must have been more conspiracies since then. Did the government use thermites on Michael Jackson?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 17:33:50 GMT -5
Shred: keep it up. For some the truth is too scary. What if there was no conspiracy. Some of our best rightie friends would have to live in the present. Oh wait, there must have been more conspiracies since then. Did the government use thermites on Michael Jackson?
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Post by bob0627 on Jul 24, 2013 22:47:10 GMT -5
"Shred: keep it up."
Don't worry about that, he will.
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Post by shred on Sept 11, 2013 8:41:47 GMT -5
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 11, 2013 9:24:06 GMT -5
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Post by shred on Sept 11, 2013 10:49:55 GMT -5
They're either idiots or conmen, take your pick.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 11, 2013 11:10:36 GMT -5
They're either idiots or conmen, take your pick. All the people who testified on video about explosions on or shortly after 9/11 are idiots or con men? You don't know how to post anything about 9/11 without name calling and character assassination, do you? And what kind of person do you think you are?
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Post by shred on Sept 13, 2013 4:45:16 GMT -5
Explosions and explosives are two different things, my friends left over curry exploded in her microwave the other night. Explosion doesn't mean someone sneaked into her house and hid nanoscopic explosives in her food to blow up in her microwave did it ? The buildings did not fall into their own footprints, they fell outwards, ex plosion means rapid outward expansion. im plosion means rapid inward contraction. The buildings did not implode. No sequences of demolitions charges were heard. No sequences of demolitions charges can be heard on raw footage: No remnants of demolitions charges were found in the debris. No detcord remnants or blasting caps were found in the debris. There was no way to rig these buildings for controlled demolitions without people in the offices noticing as a team of workers would have had to go in, strip out walls, pre cut columns, mount metal clad shaped RDX charges like these: fit blasting caps, string out det cord everywhere, lag the charges, fit delays to control a sequence of explosions. It's hugely invasive work so the idea that this could be done in total secrecy in populated office buildings (and then also survive the impact of jet airliners) is just not credible. It doesn't matter how many times you parrot the word explosion, it's no evidence of explosives and the only explosives used in controlled demolition are extremely loud high explosives such as RDX which have explosive velocities of 8.7 kilometres per second and can be heard for miles around en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX in a city populated by 8.3 million people.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 13, 2013 7:25:45 GMT -5
"Explosions and explosives are two different things"
Yep, they are, you are so brilliant. Well over hundred people saw, heard and felt explosions, but that's different than explosives. Explosives cause explosions. Thanks for clarifying, you really straightened me out, I would have never known that if you had not told me.
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Post by shred on Sept 13, 2013 13:45:37 GMT -5
Explosions? Thousands of tonnes of steel was falling as the result of structural failure in the fire weakened impact levels, it's not going to sound like Zebedee from the Magic Roundabout and go "boing", it's going to be loud. Loud noise doesn't automatically mean pre planted demolition charges. Have you any idea how ridiculous your demolition theory is ? Explosives don't melt steel, they shatter it so quickly it remains cold to the touch. Explosives aren't designed to survive intense fires, and airliners crashing through skyscrapers would wreck any chance of demolition charges working properly. As for Thermites: They're primarily used as welding compounds. Tests by Jesse Ventura proved that Nano Thermite doesn't work as a demolitions charge. The New Mexico Tech tests he sponsored completely failed to damage a test girder with it even when the girder was painted with the stuff and during the Nano Thermite tests there were no explosions.
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Post by bob0627 on Sept 13, 2013 14:26:52 GMT -5
"Explosions?"
Yes explosions:
ex·plo·sion [ik-sploh-zhuhn] noun
1. an act or instance of exploding; a violent expansion or bursting with noise, as of gunpowder or a boiler (opposed to implosion). 2. the noise itself: The loud explosion woke them. 3. a violent outburst, as of laughter or anger. 4. a sudden, rapid, or great increase: a population explosion. 5. the burning of the mixture of fuel and air in an internal-combustion engine.
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Post by shred on Sept 14, 2013 3:33:24 GMT -5
6) A figure of speech used to represent a loud bang.
There were no pre planted demolitions charges, the conditions in the impact zones were too violent for any explosive charges to survive without burning or detonating.
The collapses of both twin towers initiated in the impact floors and could only have been natural structural failure. No explosives could have survived the fires, and the sounds were not characteristic of demolitions charges. RDX explodes at a velocity of 8750 m/s. HMX explodes at a velocity of 9100 m/s. PETN's explosive velocity is 8400m/s. TNT's explosive velocity is 6900m/s.
And thermites being incendiaries not explosives do not have the velocity to shatter steel.
Had demolitions charges been going off they'd have been as audible in the videos of WTC collapses as they are in videos of controlled demolitions like this:
Pay particular attention to the long distance shot of the collapse at 1 minute 45 seconds and notice how the sound travels after the flash. Then watch the raw footage of WTC7's collapse again.
The WTC collapses were very different.
WTC7 collapse with audio
WTC7 collapse with audio
WTC2 collapse with audio
WTC1 collapse with audio
Natural collapses not explosive initiated collapses.
The lack of characteristic explosive sounds in raw undoctored footage created a quandry for conspiracy theorists which they have tried to fill with thermites as thermites don't give off characteristic bang sounds. Thing is, as thermites don't go bang, they don't have an application in controlled demolitions because they don't have the explosive velocity needed to shatter load bearing columns.
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